RE: Close down CANLIST ? was --> RE: Single ended termination

"John Dammeyer" <[email protected]> Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:13:22 -0800
Newsgroups gmane.comp.hardware.bus.can
Message-ID <[email protected]>
I migrated my E-Leadscrew to groups.io.  I've not had major problems.  A lo=
t of the other Yahoo groups went that way too.  Some didn't and the knowled=
ge and information was lost.  At one point I think the CAN list was also mi=
rrored onto groups.io.

Also I had to pay for a year to migrate which was more than $20.  Some of t=
he members graciously contributed.

In either case I do not want to see the CAN list closed down.  Perhaps beca=
use sometimes lately my messages do not show up the same happens to others?=
  So they don't bother posting as there is never a reply?

John Dammeyer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:canlist-owner@vector-in=
formatik.com] On Behalf Of Al Thomason
> Sent: February-25-21 8:10 AM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Close down CANLIST ? was --> RE: [CANLIST] Single ended terminat=
ion
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> All,
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> If I might offer a suggestion:  Migrate to Groups.io?  (https://groups.io=
/groups )    I recently did a migration of a local mailing list that
> too was started long ago, and the operators were growing weary of the cos=
t / effort to maintain a hosted mailing list server.
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> They offer the ability to 'import' and existing mailing list addresses fo=
r the paid account, but one only needs to do that for 1 month at
> a cost of $20 before reverting back to free access that likely would serv=
e the needs for a list like this (It use to be always be free, but
> with the closing of Yahoo mailing lists, the groups.io people were floode=
d with requests, so they had to fall back to their automated
> service in the paid account, but changed terms that one could revert to t=
he free account after 1 month)
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> With so many other 'forums', I too have avoided the more social media one=
s, FB, etc.   Myself, I prefer an Emailing list; and even if
> the traffic is light will offer that my experience this past month does s=
how there is still some life left in it!
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> Just an idea,
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> -al-
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:canlist-owner@vector-in=
formatik.com] On Behalf Of - -
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 9:26 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [CANLIST] Single ended termination
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> Hello Andreas,
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> sincere thanks for providing, hosting and managing the list over the year=
s.
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> Regrettably I have to agree, it's becoming silent in the CAN world.
> My company started the first CAN device (an DSP-402-drive) back in the la=
te nineties.
> We had many CAN products since then and even some very special setups (i.=
e. CAN over plastic fiber in an magnetic resonance
> medical device).
> But focus shifted, nowadays we do most of our new stuff for ethernet vari=
ants like Profinet or Ethercat.
> Yes, we still sell CAN stuff, but no new developed devices.
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> It was always fun following the list, i.e. Johns articles about the Olymp=
ic rings were absolute highlights.
> The list was very informative, educative and always a good place to ask s=
pecial questions.
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> But times are changing, for me it's now still fun reading here but not lo=
nger something I need for work.
> So from my side it's absolutely ok to turn off the list if it's getting d=
ifficult running it in a secure way.
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> Thanks again
>   Matthias
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> > Neubauer, Andreas <[email protected]> hat am 12.02.2021 16:46=
 geschrieben:
> >
> >
> > Hi John,
> > the list has a long history indeed, and the experienced contributors li=
ke you are what makes it worthwhile in the first place. I
> always really enjoyed managing the list, but I notice that the community =
has become smaller and smaller over the years (585
> subscribers currently, 95% of them have been silent for years). We had le=
ss than 20 threads last year, so I wonder if it still makes
> sense to keep the list up and running to be honest. The majordomo softwar=
e it runs on must be shut down soon because it has long
> been outdated (no updates available). It=EF=BF=BDs possible to migrate to=
 a hosted list service, but is it worth the effort? It might be more
> rational to consider closing the list. What do you think?
> >
> > Andreas
> > CANLIST Administration
> >
> >
> > From: [email protected] <canlist-owner@vector-informa=
tik.com> On Behalf Of John Dammeyer
> > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:06 AM
> > To: 'CAN Mailinglist' <[email protected]>
> > Subject: RE: [CANLIST] Single ended termination
> >
> > Works like a charm.  Thanks for that.
> >
> > I was just privately commenting to Heikki about the history of this CAN=
 list and how it spawned from comp.arch.embedded  (1997)
> and from there Ken Tindell formed the original group.  When Ken left Univ=
eristy of Upsalla  Vector kindly took it over without any
> advertising or prejudice.  So impressive in this day and age.
> >
> > So thanks again and to you and Vector for supporting a non-partisan ope=
n forum.
> >
> > John Dammeyer
> >
> >
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