RE: Close down CANLIST ? was --> RE: Single ended termination

Will the archive:  http://can-bus.996267.n3.nabble.com/    be retained?

Noted that it seems it has been captured by archive.org, so at least there =
will be that

https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://can-bus.996267.n3.nabble.com/




Perhaps add the URLs to the home page for the group?

-al-


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:canlist-owner@vector-info=
rmatik.com] On Behalf Of John Dammeyer
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 11:27 AM
To: 'CAN Mailinglist'
Subject: RE: Close down CANLIST ? was --> RE: [CANLIST] Single ended termin=
ation

Are you going to be able to move over the message history?  The Groups.io t=
eam can probably help with that.
John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:canlist-owner@vector-in=
formatik.com] On Behalf Of Neubauer, Andreas
> Sent: February-25-21 10:22 AM
> To: CAN Mailinglist ([email protected])
> Subject: RE: Close down CANLIST ? was --> RE: [CANLIST] Single ended term=
ination
>=20
> Hi Al,
> nice idea - I went straight to Groups.io and created https://groups.io/g/=
canlist/, so let's move. We have 4 weeks as the existing
> majordomo server of the current list will have to be shut down at Apr 1st=
. I cannot import anyone for legal reasons; all subscribers
> need to agree individually to the terms of service and the privacy policy=
 of groups.io (GDPR requirement). I'll operate the new list as
> a private person in my spare time - too much hassle with legal stuff if I=
 did that under the hood of Vector.
>=20
> If you would like to move over to the new canlist, just go here to subscr=
ibe:
> https://groups.io/g/canlist/join
>=20
> The domain https://canlist.org/ will probably just redirect to groups.io =
from April. BTW, the archives are here: http://can-
> bus.996267.n3.nabble.com/.
>=20
> See you on the other side ??
>=20
> /Andreas
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] <canlist-owner@vector-
> > informatik.com> On Behalf Of Al Thomason
> > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 5:10 PM
> > To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > Subject: Close down CANLIST ? was --> RE: [CANLIST] Single ended
> > termination
> >
> > All,
> >
> > If I might offer a suggestion:  Migrate to Groups.io?
> > (https://groups.io/groups )    I recently did a migration of a local ma=
iling list
> > that too was started long ago, and the operators were growing weary of =
the
> > cost / effort to maintain a hosted mailing list server.
> >
> > They offer the ability to 'import' and existing mailing list addresses =
for the
> > paid account, but one only needs to do that for 1 month at a cost of $2=
0
> > before reverting back to free access that likely would serve the needs =
for a
> > list like this (It use to be always be free, but with the closing of Ya=
hoo mailing
> > lists, the groups.io people were flooded with requests, so they had to =
fall
> > back to their automated service in the paid account, but changed terms =
that
> > one could revert to the free account after 1 month)
> >
> > With so many other 'forums', I too have avoided the more social media o=
nes,
> > FB, etc.   Myself, I prefer an Emailing list; and even if the traffic i=
s light will
> > offer that my experience this past month does show there is still some =
life
> > left in it!
> >
> > Just an idea,
> >
> > -al-
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:canlist-owner@vector-
> > informatik.com] On Behalf Of - -
> > Sent: Friday, February 12, 2021 9:26 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [CANLIST] Single ended termination
> >
> > Hello Andreas,
> >
> > sincere thanks for providing, hosting and managing the list over the ye=
ars.
> >
> > Regrettably I have to agree, it's becoming silent in the CAN world.
> > My company started the first CAN device (an DSP-402-drive) back in the =
late
> > nineties.
> > We had many CAN products since then and even some very special setups
> > (i.e. CAN over plastic fiber in an magnetic resonance medical device).
> > But focus shifted, nowadays we do most of our new stuff for ethernet
> > variants like Profinet or Ethercat.
> > Yes, we still sell CAN stuff, but no new developed devices.
> >
> > It was always fun following the list, i.e. Johns articles about the Oly=
mpic rings
> > were absolute highlights.
> > The list was very informative, educative and always a good place to ask
> > special questions.
> >
> > But times are changing, for me it's now still fun reading here but not =
longer
> > something I need for work.
> > So from my side it's absolutely ok to turn off the list if it's getting=
 difficult
> > running it in a secure way.
> >
> > Thanks again
> >   Matthias
> >
> > > Neubauer, Andreas <[email protected]> hat am 12.02.2021
> > 16:46 geschrieben:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > > the list has a long history indeed, and the experienced contributors =
like you
> > are what makes it worthwhile in the first place. I always really enjoye=
d
> > managing the list, but I notice that the community has become smaller a=
nd
> > smaller over the years (585 subscribers currently, 95% of them have bee=
n
> > silent for years). We had less than 20 threads last year, so I wonder i=
f it still
> > makes sense to keep the list up and running to be honest. The majordomo
> > software it runs on must be shut down soon because it has long been
> > outdated (no updates available). It=EF=BF=BDs possible to migrate to a =
hosted list
> > service, but is it worth the effort? It might be more rational to consi=
der
> > closing the list. What do you think?
> > >
> > > Andreas
> > > CANLIST Administration
> > >
> > >
> > > From: [email protected] <canlist-owner@vector-
> > informatik.com> On Behalf Of John Dammeyer
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 10:06 AM
> > > To: 'CAN Mailinglist' <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: RE: [CANLIST] Single ended termination
> > >
> > > Works like a charm.  Thanks for that.
> > >
> > > I was just privately commenting to Heikki about the history of this C=
AN list
> > and how it spawned from comp.arch.embedded  (1997) and from there Ken
> > Tindell formed the original group.  When Ken left Univeristy of Upsalla
> > Vector kindly took it over without any advertising or prejudice.  So im=
pressive
> > in this day and age.
> > >
> > > So thanks again and to you and Vector for supporting a non-partisan o=
pen
> > forum.
> > >
> > > John Dammeyer
> > >
> > >
> >
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