Re: [EE]: Flame rectification

Justin Richards <[email protected]> Wed, 24 Dec 2025 11:46:23 +0800
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5 burner  Macon Lacanche

Some effort to scratch thru the hob oxide with probes but no attempt to
improve/clean the hob (aka  stove eyes, burner) to chassis connectivity.

Measured hobs to chassis, expecting close to zero ohms but to my surprise
measured :-

1    105 ohm
2    Open
3    7M ohm
4    21K ohm
5    186K ohm

I am guessing if I put in lots of effort into cleaning the mating surfaces
they would have measured close to 0 ohms.

Spark plug to chassis measured:- (Avoid using excessive force to scratch
thru the oxide of the spark plugs, but appears there is no oxide.  They
look like shinny and clean stainless steel probes.)

1   20M
2   24M
3   18M
4    18M
5    17M

Spark plug to spark plug - all measured open circuit

Shorted 3 spark plugs separately and had no percievable effect on the
remaining spark plugs.

Justin


On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 7:34 PM Alan Pearce <[email protected]>
wrote:

> This was a standard trick on two cylinder motor bikes.
>
>
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2025 at 01:59, Harold Hallikainen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Interesting! So the 800 ohms is the ignition coil resistance, and the
> left
> > or right spark gaps are in series.
> >
> > Harold
> >
> >
> > On Sun, December 21, 2025 6:41 pm, Bob Blick wrote:
> > > Followup to the ignition on a gas cooktop. Four burners, the left two
> > > have 800 ohms between ignition electrodes, same with the right burners.
> > > But no connection between left and right electrodes, and no connection
> to
> > > ground. My thought is that there are two ignition coils, one for left,
> > > one for right. The coils have one HV wire("positive") for a front
> burner,
> > > the other wire("negative") for a rear burner. Ground is not part of the
> > > coils, and is only used as a path for the spark current between two
> > > electrodes. Both coils are fired at the same time, driving all four
> spark
> > > electrodes. And if any electrode is shorted to ground, it only
> increases
> > > the spark for it's mate.
> > >
> > > Clever. Reminds me a bit of the ignition coil on my Miata MX-5, where
> > > there are two ignition coil windings in the same package, but driving
> > > four spark plugs. In this case alternating between the two windings,
> > > driving two spark plugs at a time. I had a Mustang with a similar
> setup,
> > > and it actually had half the spark plugs designated positive and the
> > > others negative, with different part numbers. I replaced them with
> plugs
> > > that had iridium on both the center and ground electrode. --
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