Re: [TECH]:: Advice sought on 10 and 000 quantity manufacture of tubular plastic products
"Brent Brown" <[email protected]> Thu, 9 Apr 2026 10:12:05 +1200
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Another great project! Measuring a piece of DN40 DWV PVC tube lying nearby... ID is 38, OD is 43mm. A 5.8m length for NZD19 from trade depot would break down to maybe 47 or 48 pieces of 120mm @ ~NZD0.40ea. Food for thought, though I can't imagine you haven't had this thought already :-) https://tradedepot.co.nz/upvc-dwv-drainage-pipe-40mm-x-6m/ Additionally/alternatively wondering if this plastic component could be "crowd sourced" by "makers" with 3D printers at home. E.g. use PLA material (cheapest/easiest) but over engineer to get the mechanical qualities required, a community of volunteers each prints a bunch of say xx or more pieces at a time and donates material/time/shipping to the cause. Or perhaps give them a free reel of filament and they return a percentage of it in printed parts. I like the idea of no transparent end cap as lesser parts count has merits, and rely on internal lens... secondary lens might be a struggle to improve light characteristics and soak up lumens or milli-lumens that you don't have in abundance. That said, a degree of sealing may be a consideration you haven't mentioned yet. I imagine this thing is fixed/hung high up and the light will point straight down? Brent On 9 Apr 2026 at 3:43, RussellMc wrote: > The following is from posts to Stack Exchange and Facebook engineerings > groups. > I'm sure that there are people here just as capable :-). > Main concern is suggestion how to manufacture 1000 and 10-20 tubular > plastic items at low cost. > I'm asking Chinese and local manufacturers these questions. > Local manufacture has minimal chance of being viable, sadly. > > Russell > _______________________ > > I'm looking for advice on > > How to make the following in quantities of: > > - Prototype (10-20 volume) > - Small volume (say 1000) <-- this is the main concern > > For larger volumes plastic injection moulding is liable to be most economic. > > 2. > > Order of cost for labor (labour to me - I'm a Kiwi) > 3. > > Thoughts on material choices. > > In volume production (and maybe 1000 quantity) a mounting "foot" will > probably be added. > > This is a light for use in women's toilets (initially) in refugee camps. > The light level is VERY low but vastly better than utter darkness, and it > will operate from a single Alkaline D cell all night for 5 years. > An optional version with a PIR person sensor allowing brighter light only > when occupied. > > Target cost is $US3 (or less) complete (electronics, housing, battery). > > Ideally the device would be highly theft and vandalism resistance BUT this > is probably unachievable given cost constraints. > Metal is not an option: ANY metal parts are liable to be removed for > "recycling" :-( . At least for the prototype and maybe the first 1000 > lights durability and vandal resistance are not a major factor, although eg > PLA plastic is probably not robust enough. > ------------------------------ > > 3D printing may be acceptable for the first prototypes. > I have 3D printing facilities. PLA filament and Resin printers at present > but strength is very poor. ABS filament and carbon fibre filled resin MAY > be an option. > > I have a lathe, milling machine and router and may yet chew the prototypes > out of tube and sheet. > > Diagram shows possible plastic choices but other suggestions welcome. > > A, B: Body and end cap ABS PC PE ... Black (ideally) opaque. > > C, D: "Lens" (just a light "port") Actual lens is internal. > > > *Diagram is just to convey concept.Dimensions shown are conceptual only and > need work.* > Some parts are too thin. TBD. > > Please excuse bad diagram - after too long away I'm learning a new graphics > package and this was quicker :-) :-( > > > *Diagram here <https://i.sstatic.net/GkUWD6QE.png>(Stack Exchange): * > > *And here (Dropbox) > <https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3ldxj6zl4x2sfpak4v4oj/5YL-body-design-conceptual-Cambrian-prototype-dimensioned-V321-FF.jpg?rlkey=r84hgb7mr3c1i2skkd6hhwq1k&dl=0>* > > C & D are both transparent. > *Ideally D is not needed and C fits as a cap on A.* > > In volume C&D can be one part but that's harder in small volume. > > A-B join can be permanent. > C-D pinned / grub screws / thread / magic. > > Ideally opened maybe twice at start of life. > Thread may be nice but not if costly/hard. > > Adhesive use acceptable. > > BONUS if C & D pass IR light well - allowing PIR to work inside and not > need a custom "port" for its lens. > > Acrylic/PMMA - good light transmission. > Not robust. > Polycarbonate - slightly less light transmission. Robust. Expensive. > ------------------------------ > > Manufacture: > > 3D print > "Screw machine" > Other ... ? > > Also on: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/14ZCy9T4FVv/ > -- > http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > https://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist