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Florian Schmid via Toasters <[email protected]> Tue, 29 Nov 2022 13:04:44 GMT
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--===============2490723198671246067== Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mx2-at.ubimet.com (mx2-at.ubimet.com [141.98.226.72]) by dormouse.teaparty.net (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 2ATD4gjS007866 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for <[email protected]>; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 13:04:42 GMT Authentication-Results: dormouse.teaparty.net; spf=pass [email protected] smtp.helo=mx2-at.ubimet.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2-at.ubimet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E14E82EBE; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 13:04:41 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ubimet.com; s=20200131mdel; t=1669727082; bh=/jaeFL5NhkkjfdVrmSMU3zxdxQimVwNQz3fkezj+s9Y=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From; b=NXTzvIrP2kUy7u0iZgPi+4wUN4OEGuCzPE6an7FNvGrSHzF7lxrYbkUwXp85bJ3Ri x5xOoH9vzD/rreNgax2JGjRB/6FeBLEFXJ47ni3Q4Xd3jRxGIgm5QbSctwIpyXPKTJ eKJ5naLFswL1/spXXVSv1YMOSBWfMuxO5jzS6SvWPD3Pcqq7IIGfN0+zGV9b8Mx48k GlVabIWHf96a5FU6o0Nc2avZitVZEasgeUWVhRT7i4jeZ2cUKr8ZeLh7g1qgUn+Sxe 6mJnlB0I8KLLE+Z22wbw9REfyJAIOrT7ml0yAiY6DEorWxxFBSxiGVfF9ti1vmtMkR rEx/B7/iePHiQ== Received: from mx2-at.ubimet.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx02.dmz.dc.at.ubimet.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6wj_pkyDtvEK; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 13:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zimbra-mta01.ext.dc.at.ubimet.com (zimbra-mta01.ext.dc.at.ubimet.com [10.1.18.22]) by mx2-at.ubimet.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 250BE82E50; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 13:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra-mta01.ext.dc.at.ubimet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C029804B8; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 13:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zimbra-mta01.ext.dc.at.ubimet.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra-mta01.ext.dc.at.ubimet.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id hlkuEpqZStLv; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 13:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra-mta01.ext.dc.at.ubimet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339A7804B3; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 13:04:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra-mta01.ext.dc.at.ubimet.com Received: from zimbra-mta01.ext.dc.at.ubimet.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra-mta01.ext.dc.at.ubimet.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id lcBe9uDnwcRE; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 13:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zimbra-store02.ext.dc.at.ubimet.com (zimbra-store02.ext.dc.at.ubimet.com [10.1.18.23]) by zimbra-mta01.ext.dc.at.ubimet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1541804B8; Tue, 29 Nov 2022 13:04:36 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2022 13:04:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Florian Schmid <[email protected]> To: Alexander Griesser <[email protected]> Cc: toasters <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <PR3PR09MB5393769B9554B4B0DACD32D1B8139@PR3PR09MB5393.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> <CO6PR06MB761935382B0C69D45EAA0B338A139@CO6PR06MB7619.namprd06.prod.outlook.com> <PR3PR09MB53930AD980CC52F40233050AB8139@PR3PR09MB5393.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> <PH0PR04MB8434FC04B025AC5B81C17DB6E9139@PH0PR04MB8434.namprd04.prod.outlook.com> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Subject: Re: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_afbd764e-ea17-4e12-820d-4bec2a267708" X-Originating-IP: [10.15.68.177] X-Mailer: Zimbra 8.8.15_GA_4464 (ZimbraWebClient - GC106 (Linux)/8.8.15_GA_4468) Thread-Topic: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage Thread-Index: AQHZA+3pCWlbRYmXqk2xO8w8j+EHfzkUgrKV X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (dormouse.teaparty.net [178.18.123.145]); Tue, 29 Nov 2022 13:04:42 +0000 (GMT) --=_afbd764e-ea17-4e12-820d-4bec2a267708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alexander,=20 thank you very much for your answer.=20 What we want to achieve is at least a backup for our production NetApp Clus= ter and if possible, to move some volumes of the cluster, not to fill it up= too much with things that don't need to run on flash storage.=20 Best regards,=20 Florian=20 Von: "Alexander Griesser" <[email protected]>=20 An: "Florian Schmid" <[email protected]>, "toasters" <[email protected]= t>=20 Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. November 2022 13:27:14=20 Betreff: AW: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage=20 Hi Florian,=20 we=E2=80=99re using the Darksite version of the tool in production for some= customers. It works as you would expect it to work, no public cloud involv= ed (if you don=E2=80=99t want to). The backend on our end is also a Storage= Grid S3 but it should work with others, job orchestration happens in the Cl= oud Manager locally on your end and it connects to the source filer and the= destination system and the traffic is not running through the appliance.= =20 There are some caveats as to what you can and cannot do and what features o= f the S3 backend are supported (lifecycle policies are problematic, f.ex.).= =20 We=E2=80=99ve run through quite some big projects on that so far and it=E2= =80=99s not always the best solution=E2=80=A6=20 Can you maybe describe your exact usecase?=20 Best,=20 Alexander Griesser=20 Head of Systems Operations=20 ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH=20 E-Mail: [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ]=20 Web: [ http://www.anexia-it.com/ | http://www.anexia-it.com ]=20 Anschrift Hauptsitz Klagenfurt: Feldkirchnerstra=C3=9Fe 140, 9020 Klagenfur= t=20 Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Alexander Windbichler=20 Firmenbuch: FN 289918a | Gerichtsstand: Klagenfurt | UID-Nummer: AT U632166= 01=20 Von: Florian Schmid <[email protected]>=20 Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. November 2022 12:13=20 An: toasters <[email protected]>=20 Betreff: Re: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage=20 Hi there,=20 wow, thank you very much for all your help!=20 Yes, I'm now more confused than before, but please let me summarize all of = your statements in my words:=20 * CBS is a solution to backup non S3 local NetApp volumes (flex vols) t= o Cloud providers or StorageGrid?=20 * S3 Snampmirror is only for S3 storage to S3 storage, example on-prem = Ontap can also have S3 object storage and this I could sync to AWS S3 for e= xample=20 * NetApp Cloud backup is somehow quite new and should compete with 3rd = party backup vendors to use NetApp built in backup features to backup to cl= oud storage or on-prem storage-grid=20 * there will be in future maybe different backup targets, but not f= or now=20 * Snapdiff v3 is the only remaining snapdiff version and with this, I c= ould do backup snapshot diffs block wise?=20 * Only a few 3rd party backup solutions are supporting this, but th= ose can be used to fully backup an on-prem NetApp Ontap cluster and its vol= umes=20 * NDMP is quite old and can I do with this differential backups of NetA= pp volumes using snapshots?=20 * Should snapdiff v3 replace this?=20 * Best way to backup an on-prem NetApp Ontap Cluster would be a second = NetApp cluster using snapmirror / snapvault=20 As I understand this correctly, if I want to backup a NetApp Ontap Cluster = with only flex volumes, I can use another NetApp with snapmirror, or a NetA= pp StorageGrid, or some special 3rd party backup solutions, which support s= napdiff v3?=20 Sorry for so much questions, but this is not easy to understand all the pos= sibilities.=20 Best regards,=20 Florian=20 Von: "Wayne McCormick" <[email protected]>=20 An: "Heino Walther" <[email protected]>, "Justin Parisi" <Justin.Parisi@netap= p.com>, "Florian Schmid" <[email protected]>, "toasters" <toasters@teapart= y.net>=20 Gesendet: Montag, 28. November 2022 17:39:16=20 Betreff: RE: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage=20 Umm, with ONTAP 9.9.1 and later there is SnapMIrror Cloud.=20 [ https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/task_dp_back_up_to_cloud.html#add-a-c= loud-object-store | https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/task_dp_back_up_to_= cloud.html#add-a-cloud-object-store ]=20 So, yes, you can backup a FlexVol to S3, but the target appears to be limit= ed to ONTAP S3 or StorageGRID at the moment.=20 Wayne=20 From: Toasters <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Heino Walther= =20 Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 8:02 AM=20 To: Parisi, Justin <[email protected]>; Florian Schmid <fschmid@ubim= et.com>; [email protected]=20 Subject: SV: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage=20 ATTENTION: This email originated outside of Shaw. Do not click links or ope= n attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe. Imm= ediately report suspicious emails using the Phish Alert Report button .=20 Please note, that S3 SnapMirror cannot snapmirror a FlexVol, but only your = S3 buckets located on your ONTAP Filer=E2=80=A6=20 There is no way to backup a FlexVol (and restore it as a FlexVol) other tha= n with SnapMirror/Vault or NDMP.=20 =E2=80=A6and there most likely never will be =EF=98=8A=20 /Heino=20 Fra: Parisi, Justin < [ mailto:[email protected] | Justin.Parisi@net= app.com ] >=20 Dato: mandag, 28. november 2022 kl. 15.32=20 Til: Heino Walther < [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] >, Floria= n Schmid < [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] >, [ mailto:t= [email protected] | [email protected] ] < [ mailto:toasters@teaparty= .net | [email protected] ] >=20 Emne: Re: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage=20 No, that's FabricPool/cloud tiering. (older blocks, needing license for non= -NetApp)=20 SnapMirror S3 is what Florian is referring to.=20 [ https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/s3-snapmirror/index.html | https://do= cs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/s3-snapmirror/index.html ]=20 " In addition, unlike standard SnapMirror, S3 SnapMirror can have non-NetAp= p destinations."=20 =09 [ https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/s3-snapmirror/index.html ]=20 =09 [ https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/s3-snapmirror/index.html | S3 SnapMir= ror overview - NetApp ]=20 Beginning with ONTAP 9.10.1, you can protect buckets in ONTAP S3 object sto= res using familiar SnapMirror mirroring and backup functionality=20 docs.netapp.com=20 So far, looks like there may be a limited number of non-NetApp targets supp= orted (perhaps just AWS S3) but that list likely will grow.=20 You can also leverage 3 rd party like Cleondris for index:=20 [ https://www.cleondris.com/en/snapmirror-cloud.xhtml | https://www.cleondr= is.com/en/snapmirror-cloud.xhtml ]=20 =09 [ https://www.cleondris.com/en/snapmirror-cloud.xhtml | Cleondris: SnapMirr= or Cloud ]=20 Cleondris and NetApp are pleased to announce availability of SnapMirror Clo= ud support in the Cleondris Data Manager product. Cleondris orchestrates an= d manages backup and recovery of data on NetApp ONTAP systems directly to O= bject storage (S3) leveraging NetApp's SnapMirror Cloud technology.. Due to= is its deep integration with ONTAP APIs, Cleondris is able to backup data = from ONTAP using the ...=20 [ http://www.cleondris.com/ | www.cleondris.com ]=20 From: Toasters < [ mailto:[email protected] | toasters-bounces@= teaparty.net ] > on behalf of Heino Walther < [ mailto:[email protected] | hw= @beardmann.dk ] >=20 Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 9:03 AM=20 To: Florian Schmid < [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] >; = [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] < [ mailto:toaster= [email protected] | [email protected] ] >=20 Subject: SV: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage=20 =09 NetApp Security WARNING : This is an external email. Do not click links or = open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is sa= fe.=20 Hi Florian=20 The short answer is no.=20 What the cloud-backup as you call it, does, it to move =E2=80=9Colder=E2=80= =9D datablocks to an S3 target or it can move blocks in your snapshots.=20 So the information of where the blocks are stored is still in the original = volume, and you need to back that information up either by SnapMirror/Vault= or an NDMP dump.=20 Also, if you plan using anything else than another ONTAP or StorageGRID, yo= u will need to buy license=E2=80=A6=20 If you do not have another NetApp system to SnapMirror to, I would look int= o NDMP backup as an option=E2=80=A6 it is supported by most backup products= like BackupExec etc=E2=80=A6=20 /Heino=20 Fra: Florian Schmid < [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] >= =20 Dato: mandag, 28. november 2022 kl. 14.45=20 Til: [ mailto:[email protected] | [email protected] ] < [ mailto:to= [email protected] | [email protected] ] >=20 Emne: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage=20 Hi there, I wanted to ask, if someone knows or has this done already, if yo= u can backup your on premise NetApp Ontap volumes to a 3rd party S3 storage= . As far as I understand this so called "cloud-backup", it can send snapsho= t diffs (block based) to a S3 storage like AWS or on-premise StorageGrid no= des. But would this also work to 3rd party S3 storage tools like minIO? Let= 's image we have a huge on-premise S3 storage running minIO or what ever ve= ndor, can I use this also as a target for my Ontap volume backup? NetApp it= self is only mentioning 3rd party S3 storage for tiering, but not for backu= p. If this is not possible, is there another possibility to backup volume s= napshot diffs to a non netapp storage? It must be block based and not file = based backup. Best regards Florian=20 --=_afbd764e-ea17-4e12-820d-4bec2a267708 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="=_8ed8af1a-b522-440f-928f-cbf8bb98ce4b" --=_8ed8af1a-b522-440f-928f-cbf8bb98ce4b Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s= ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi Alexander,</div><div><br data-mce-bogus= =3D"1"></div><div>thank you very much for your answer.</div><div><br data-m= ce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>What we want to achieve is at least a backup for = our production NetApp Cluster and if possible, to move some volumes of the = cluster, not to fill it up too much with things that don't need to run on f= lash storage.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Florian</div= ><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVI= DER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>Von: </b>"Alexander Griesser" &l= t;[email protected]><br><b>An: </b>"Florian Schmid" <fschmid@ub= imet.com>, "toasters" <[email protected]><br><b>Gesendet: </b>= Dienstag, 29. November 2022 13:27:14<br><b>Betreff: </b>AW: NetApp backup t= o 3rd party S3 storage<br></div><div><br><style><!-- @font-face =09{font-family:Wingdings; =09panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;} @font-face =09{font-family:"Cambria Math"; =09panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face =09{font-family:Calibri; =09panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} @font-face =09{font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji"; =09panose-1:2 11 5 2 4 2 4 2 2 3;} @font-face =09{font-family:"Segoe UI"; =09panose-1:2 11 5 2 4 2 4 2 2 3;} @font-face =09{font-family:"Segoe UI Light"; =09panose-1:2 11 5 2 4 2 4 2 2 3;} @font-face =09{font-family:"Source Sans Pro";} p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal =09{margin:0cm; =09font-size:11.0pt; =09font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink =09{mso-style-priority:99; =09color:blue; =09text-decoration:underline;} p.xmsonormal, li.xmsonormal, div.xmsonormal =09{mso-style-name:x_msonormal; =09margin:0cm; =09font-size:11.0pt; =09font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} span.contentpasted1 =09{mso-style-name:contentpasted1;} span.contentpasted2 =09{mso-style-name:contentpasted2;} span.E-MailFormatvorlage23 =09{mso-style-type:personal-reply; =09font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; =09color:windowtext;} .MsoChpDefault =09{mso-style-type:export-only; =09font-size:10.0pt;} @page WordSection1 =09{size:612.0pt 792.0pt; =09margin:3.0cm 2.0cm 3.0cm 2.0cm;} div.WordSection1 =09{page:WordSection1;} @list l0 =09{mso-list-id:1867018082; =09mso-list-template-ids:-1630762602;} @list l0:level1 =09{mso-level-number-format:bullet; =09mso-level-text:=EF=82=B7; =09mso-level-tab-stop:36.0pt; =09mso-level-number-position:left; =09text-indent:-18.0pt; =09mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; =09font-family:Symbol;} @list l0:level2 =09{mso-level-number-format:bullet; =09mso-level-text:o; =09mso-level-tab-stop:72.0pt; =09mso-level-number-position:left; =09text-indent:-18.0pt; =09mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; =09font-family:"Courier New"; =09mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";} @list l0:level3 =09{mso-level-number-format:bullet; =09mso-level-text:=EF=82=A7; =09mso-level-tab-stop:108.0pt; =09mso-level-number-position:left; =09text-indent:-18.0pt; =09mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; =09font-family:Wingdings;} @list l0:level4 =09{mso-level-number-format:bullet; =09mso-level-text:=EF=82=A7; =09mso-level-tab-stop:144.0pt; =09mso-level-number-position:left; =09text-indent:-18.0pt; =09mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; =09font-family:Wingdings;} @list l0:level5 =09{mso-level-number-format:bullet; =09mso-level-text:=EF=82=A7; =09mso-level-tab-stop:180.0pt; =09mso-level-number-position:left; =09text-indent:-18.0pt; =09mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; =09font-family:Wingdings;} @list l0:level6 =09{mso-level-number-format:bullet; =09mso-level-text:=EF=82=A7; =09mso-level-tab-stop:216.0pt; =09mso-level-number-position:left; =09text-indent:-18.0pt; =09mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; =09font-family:Wingdings;} @list l0:level7 =09{mso-level-number-format:bullet; =09mso-level-text:=EF=82=A7; =09mso-level-tab-stop:252.0pt; =09mso-level-number-position:left; =09text-indent:-18.0pt; =09mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; =09font-family:Wingdings;} @list l0:level8 =09{mso-level-number-format:bullet; =09mso-level-text:=EF=82=A7; =09mso-level-tab-stop:288.0pt; =09mso-level-number-position:left; =09text-indent:-18.0pt; =09mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; =09font-family:Wingdings;} @list l0:level9 =09{mso-level-number-format:bullet; =09mso-level-text:=EF=82=A7; =09mso-level-tab-stop:324.0pt; =09mso-level-number-position:left; =09text-indent:-18.0pt; =09mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; =09font-family:Wingdings;} ol =09{margin-bottom:0cm;} ul =09{margin-bottom:0cm;} --></style></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"> <div class=3D"WordSection1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Floria= n,</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </s= pan></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">we=E2=80= =99re using the Darksite version of the tool in production for some custome= rs. It works as you would expect it to work, no public cloud involved (if y= ou don=E2=80=99t want to). The backend on our end is also a StorageGrid S3 but it should work with others, job orchestration ha= ppens in the Cloud Manager locally on your end and it connects to the sourc= e filer and the destination system and the traffic is not running through t= he appliance.</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">There are= some caveats as to what you can and cannot do and what features of the S3 = backend are supported (lifecycle policies are problematic, f.ex.).</span></= p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </s= pan></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We=E2=80= =99ve run through quite some big projects on that so far and it=E2=80=99s n= ot always the best solution=E2=80=A6</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Can you m= aybe describe your exact usecase?</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </s= pan></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best,</sp= an></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </s= pan></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"= Arial",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE">Alexander Gries= ser</span></b></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Ari= al",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE">Head of Systems Op= erations</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Ari= al",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE"> </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Ari= al",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE">ANEXIA Internetdie= nstleistungs GmbH</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Ari= al",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE"> </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Ari= al",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE">E-Mail: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">AGriesser@anex= ia-it.com</a> </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Ari= al",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE">Web: <a href=3D"http://www.anexia-it.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.anexia-i= t.com</a> </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Ari= al",sans-serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:DE"> </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Ari= al",sans-serif;color:#595959;mso-fareast-language:DE">Anschrift Haupts= itz Klagenfurt: Feldkirchnerstra=C3=9Fe 140, 9020 Klagenfurt</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Ari= al",sans-serif;color:#595959;mso-fareast-language:DE">Gesch=C3=A4ftsf= =C3=BChrer: Alexander Windbichler</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Ari= al",sans-serif;color:#595959;mso-fareast-language:DE">Firmenbuch: FN 2= 89918a | Gerichtsstand: Klagenfurt | UID-Nummer: AT U63216601</span></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </s= pan></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE= "> Florian Schmid <[email protected]> <br> <b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 29. November 2022 12:13<br> <b>An:</b> toasters <[email protected]><br> <b>Betreff:</b> Re: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage</span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p> <div id=3D"zimbraEditorContainer"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black">Hi there,</span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black">wow, thank you very much for all your hel= p!</span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black">Yes, I'm now more confused than before, b= ut please let me summarize all of your statements in my words:</span></p> </div> <ul type=3D"disc"> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma= rgin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"> <span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">C= BS is a solution to backup non S3 local NetApp volumes (flex vols) to Cloud= providers or StorageGrid?</span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"colo= r:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 leve= l1 lfo1"> <span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">S= 3 Snampmirror is only for S3 storage to S3 storage, example on-prem Ontap c= an also have S3 object storage and this I could sync to AWS S3 for example<= /span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:= auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"> <span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">N= etApp Cloud backup is somehow quite new and should compete with 3rd party b= ackup vendors to use NetApp built in backup features to backup to cloud sto= rage or on-prem storage-grid</span></li></ul> <ul type=3D"disc"> <ul type=3D"circle"> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma= rgin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"> <span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">t= here will be in future maybe different backup targets, but not for now</spa= n></li></ul> </ul> <ul type=3D"disc"> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma= rgin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"> <span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">S= napdiff v3 is the only remaining snapdiff version and with this, I could do= backup snapshot diffs block wise?</span></li></ul> <ul type=3D"disc"> <ul type=3D"circle"> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma= rgin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"> <span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">O= nly a few 3rd party backup solutions are supporting this, but those can be = used to fully backup an on-prem NetApp Ontap cluster and its volumes</span>= </li></ul> </ul> <ul type=3D"disc"> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma= rgin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"> <span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">N= DMP is quite old and can I do with this differential backups of NetApp volu= mes using snapshots?</span></li></ul> <ul type=3D"disc"> <ul type=3D"circle"> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma= rgin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1"> <span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">S= hould snapdiff v3 replace this?</span></li></ul> </ul> <ul type=3D"disc"> <li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma= rgin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"> <span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">B= est way to backup an on-prem NetApp Ontap Cluster would be a second NetApp = cluster using snapmirror / snapvault</span></li></ul> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black">As I understand this correctly, if I want= to backup a NetApp Ontap Cluster with only flex volumes, I can use another= NetApp with snapmirror, or a NetApp StorageGrid, or some special 3rd party backup solutions, which support snapdiff v3?</sp= an></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black">Sorry for so much questions, but this is = not easy to understand all the possibilities.</span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black">Best regards,</span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black">Florian</span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><span= style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:b= lack"> <hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center" id=3D"zwchr"> </span></div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"= ;Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Von: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sa= ns-serif;color:black">"Wayne McCormick" <[email protected]><br> <b>An: </b>"Heino Walther" <[email protected]>, "Justin Parisi" <Jus= [email protected]>, "Florian Schmid" <[email protected]>, "to= asters" <[email protected]><br> <b>Gesendet: </b>Montag, 28. November 2022 17:39:16<br> <b>Betreff: </b>RE: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage</span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ar= ial",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Umm, with ONTAP 9.9.1 an= d later there is SnapMIrror Cloud.</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><a href=3D"https://docs.= netapp.com/us-en/ontap/task_dp_back_up_to_cloud.html#add-a-cloud-object-sto= re" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/task_dp_back_up_t= o_cloud.html#add-a-cloud-object-store</a></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">So, yes, you can backup = a FlexVol to S3, but the target appears to be limited to ONTAP S3 or Storag= eGRID at the moment.</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Wayne</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p> <div> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:black">From:</span></b><span= style=3D"color:black"> Toasters <[email protected]> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heino Walther<br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 28, 2022 8:02 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Parisi, Justin <[email protected]>; Florian Schmid = <[email protected]>; [email protected]<br> <b>Subject:</b> SV: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage</span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p> <div style=3D"border:solid black 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"> <p style=3D"background:#B30000"><b><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.= 0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:white"> ATTEN= TION:</span></b><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&qu= ot;Arial",sans-serif;color:white"> This email originated outside = of Shaw. Do not click links or open attachments unless you trust the sender a= nd know the content is safe. Immediately report suspicious emails using the <b>Phish Alert Report button</b>.</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fon= t-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Please note, that S3 Sna= pMirror cannot snapmirror a FlexVol, but only your S3 buckets located on yo= ur ONTAP Filer=E2=80=A6</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">There is no way to backu= p a FlexVol (and restore it as a FlexVol) other than with SnapMirror/Vault = or NDMP.</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">=E2=80=A6and there most = likely never will be </span><span style=3D"font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;col= or:black">=EF=98=8A</span><span style=3D"color:black"></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">/Heino</span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span lang=3D"DA" = style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Fra: </span></b><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Parisi,= Justin <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">J= [email protected]</a>><br> <b>Dato: </b>mandag, 28. november 2022 kl. 15.32<br> <b>Til: </b>Heino Walther <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"= _blank">[email protected]</a>>, Florian Schmid <<a href=3D"mailto:fschm= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>>, <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">toasters@teapart= y.net</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">to= [email protected]</a>><br> <b>Emne: </b>Re: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage</span><span style=3D= "color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:bl= ack">No, that's FabricPool/cloud tiering. (older blocks, needing license fo= r non-NetApp)</span><span style=3D"color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:bl= ack"> </span><span style=3D"color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:bl= ack">SnapMirror S3 is what Florian is referring to.</span><span style= =3D"color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:bl= ack"> </span><span style=3D"color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:bl= ack"><a href=3D"https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/s3-snapmirror/index.htm= l" target=3D"_blank">https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/s3-snapmirror/inde= x.html</a></span><span style=3D"color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:bl= ack"> </span><span style=3D"color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:bl= ack">"</span><span class=3D"contentpasted1"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font= -size:13.5pt;font-family:"Source Sans Pro",sans-serif;color:#4545= 45;background:white">In addition, unlike standard SnapMirror, S3 SnapMirror can have non-NetApp destinations."</span></span><span style= =3D"color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <div style=3D"margin-top:12.0pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt;min-width: 424px" id= =3D"LPBorder_GTaHR0cHM6Ly9kb2NzLm5ldGFwcC5jb20vdXMtZW4vb250YXAvczMtc25hcG1p= cnJvci9pbmRleC5odG1s"> <table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"1" cellpadding=3D"0" width=3D"100= %" style=3D"width:100.0%;border:solid #C8C8C8 1.0pt"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign=3D"top" style=3D"border:none;padding:9.0pt 27.0pt 9.0pt 9.0pt"> <div style=3D"margin-right:9.0pt;overflow:hidden" id=3D"LPImageContainer452= 878"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ontap/s3-sn= apmirror/index.html" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"border:solid windowte= xt 1.0pt;padding:0cm;text-decoration:none"><img border=3D"0" width=3D"160" = height=3D"160" style=3D"width:1.6666in;height:1.6666in" id=3D"Bild_x0020_3"= src=3D"cid:~WRD0004.jpg" alt=3D"Das Bild wurde vom Absender entfernt."></s= pan></a></p> </div> </td> <td width=3D"100%" valign=3D"top" style=3D"width:100.0%;border:none;padding= :9.0pt 27.0pt 9.0pt 9.0pt"> <div style=3D"margin-right:6.0pt;margin-bottom:9.0pt" id=3D"LPTitle452878"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Se= goe UI Light",sans-serif"><a href=3D"https://docs.netapp.com/us-en/ont= ap/s3-snapmirror/index.html" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"text-decorati= on:none">S3 SnapMirror overview - NetApp</span></a></span></p> </div> <div style=3D"margin-right:6.0pt;margin-bottom:9.0pt;max-height: 100px;over= flow:hidden" id=3D"LPDescription452878"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Se= goe UI",sans-serif;color:#666666">Beginning with ONTAP 9.10.1, you can= protect buckets in ONTAP S3 object stores using familiar SnapMirror mirror= ing and backup functionality</span></p> </div> <div id=3D"LPMetadata452878"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Se= goe UI",sans-serif;color:#A6A6A6">docs.netapp.com</span></p> </div> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:bl= ack">So far, looks like there may be a limited number of non-NetApp targets= supported (perhaps just AWS S3) but that list likely will grow.</span><spa= n style=3D"color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:bl= ack"> </span><span style=3D"color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:bl= ack">You can also leverage 3<sup>rd</sup> party like Cleondris for ind= ex:</span><span style=3D"color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:bl= ack"> </span><span style=3D"color:black"></span></p> </div> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"contentpasted2"><span lang=3D"DA" sty= le=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><a href=3D"https://www.cleondris.com/en= /snapmirror-cloud.xhtml" target=3D"_blank">https://www.cleondris.com/en/sna= pmirror-cloud.xhtml</a></span></span><span style=3D"color:black"></span></p= > </div> <div> <div style=3D"margin-top:12.0pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt;min-width: 424px" id= =3D"LPBorder_GTaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuY2xlb25kcmlzLmNvbS9lbi9zbmFwbWlycm9yLWNsb3Vk= LnhodG1s"> <table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"1" cellpadding=3D"0" width=3D"100= %" style=3D"width:100.0%;border:solid #C8C8C8 1.0pt"> <tbody> <tr> <td width=3D"100%" valign=3D"top" style=3D"width:100.0%;border:none;padding= :9.0pt 27.0pt 9.0pt 9.0pt"> <div style=3D"margin-right:6.0pt;margin-bottom:9.0pt" id=3D"LPTitle812092"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Se= goe UI Light",sans-serif"><a href=3D"https://www.cleondris.com/en/snap= mirror-cloud.xhtml" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"text-decoration:none">= Cleondris: SnapMirror Cloud</span></a></span></p> </div> <div style=3D"margin-right:6.0pt;margin-bottom:9.0pt;max-height: 100px;over= flow:hidden" id=3D"LPDescription812092"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Se= goe UI",sans-serif;color:#666666">Cleondris and NetApp are pleased to = announce availability of SnapMirror Cloud support in the Cleondris Data Man= ager product. Cleondris orchestrates and manages backup and recovery of data on NetApp ONTAP systems directly to Object sto= rage (S3) leveraging NetApp's SnapMirror Cloud technology.. Due to is its d= eep integration with ONTAP APIs, Cleondris is able to backup data from ONTA= P using the ...</span></p> </div> <div id=3D"LPMetadata812092"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Se= goe UI",sans-serif;color:#A6A6A6"><a href=3D"http://www.cleondris.com"= target=3D"_blank">www.cleondris.com</a></span></p> </div> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"color:black"> </span= ><span style=3D"color:black"></span></p> <div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center"><span= lang=3D"DA" style=3D"color:black"> <hr size=3D"1" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center"> </span></div> <div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"color:black">From:</sp= an></b><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"color:black"> Toasters <<a href=3D"mai= lto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">toasters-bounces@teapa= rty.net</a>> on behalf of Heino Walther <<a href=3D"mailto:hw@beardma= nn.dk" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 28, 2022 9:03 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Florian Schmid <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>>; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">toasters@teapart= y.net</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">to= [email protected]</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> SV: NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage </span><span styl= e=3D"color:black"></span></p> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"color:black"> </span= ><span style=3D"color:black"></span></p> </div> </div> <div> <table class=3D"MsoNormalTable" border=3D"1" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding= =3D"0" align=3D"left" width=3D"200" style=3D"width:150.0pt;background:#0067= C5"> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap=3D"" style=3D"padding:7.5pt 7.5pt 7.5pt 7.5pt"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:= 2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-el= ement-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly"> <b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif= ;color:yellow">NetApp Security WARNING</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:1= 0.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:yellow">: This is an e= xternal email. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. </span></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang=3D"DA" sty= le=3D"color:black"> </span><span style=3D"color:black"></span></p> <div> <div> <p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Hi Florian</span></p> <p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p> <p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"color:black">The short answer is no.= </span></p> <p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"color:black">What the cloud-backup a= s you call it, does, it to move =E2=80=9Colder=E2=80=9D datablocks to an S3= target or it can move blocks in your snapshots.</span></p> <p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"color:black">So the information of w= here the blocks are stored is still in the original volume, and you need to= back that information up either by SnapMirror/Vault or an NDMP dump.</span= ></p> <p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p> <p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Also, if you plan using= anything else than another ONTAP or StorageGRID, you will need to buy lice= nse=E2=80=A6</span></p> <p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p> <p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"color:black">If you do not have anot= her NetApp system to SnapMirror to, I would look into NDMP backup as an opt= ion=E2=80=A6 it is supported by most backup products like BackupExec = etc=E2=80=A6 </span></p> <p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p> <p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"color:black">/Heino</span></p> <p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> </span></p> <div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm = 0cm 0cm"> <p class=3D"xmsonormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span lang=3D"DA"= style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Fra: </span></b><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Florian= Schmid <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">fschmid= @ubimet.com</a>><br> <b>Dato: </b>mandag, 28. november 2022 kl. 14.45<br> <b>Til: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">toas= [email protected]</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><br> <b>Emne: </b>NetApp backup to 3rd party S3 storage</span><span style=3D"col= or:black"></span></p> </div> <p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span lang=3D"DA" style=3D"color:black">Hi there, I= wanted to ask, if someone knows or has this done already, if you can backu= p your on premise NetApp Ontap volumes to a 3rd party S3 storage. As far as= I understand this so called "cloud-backup", it can send snapshot diffs (block based) to a S3 storage like AWS or on-pr= emise StorageGrid nodes. But would this also work to 3rd party S3 storage t= ools like minIO? Let's image we have a huge on-premise S3 storage running m= inIO or what ever vendor, can I use this also as a target for my Ontap volume backup? NetApp itself is onl= y mentioning 3rd party S3 storage for tiering, but not for backup. If this = is not possible, is there another possibility to backup volume snapshot dif= fs to a non netapp storage? It must be block based and not file based backup. 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