Re: Migration to DS4486 shelf?

Tim McCarthy <[email protected]> Wed, 30 Nov 2022 14:52:40 +0000
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Do not do it. That shelf is end of support. It won=92t work properly on cur=
rent ONTAP versions

Disk failures are a pain. ONTAP prevents two disks in the same caddy from b=
eing in the same raid group. When a disk does fail it has to fail the servi=
ng drives in the caddy and you replaced two at a time


(Any typos are courtesy of Google GBoard!)


--tmac

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From: Toasters <[email protected]> on behalf of Heino Walther <=
[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 8:21:09 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Migration to DS4486 shelf?


Hi there



Because of space constraints I am planning to move my 3 pcs. DS212C into a =
DS4486.

But I have a few questions ??

My existing disks are X318 (8TB NL-SAS), and I think the caddies for the DS=
4486 are also SAS, so that should technically fit?



Does the NetApp see 24 or 48 disks from the DS4486?  Because I plan to reus=
e existing disks with aggregates on them=85



I can see the DS4486 use special PN as spare disks because the caddy has tw=
o disks installed.  How does NetApp handle the replacement when one disk of=
 the two dies?

I know the healthy disk is also copied to a spare before you can replace th=
e caddy, but do you then replace both disks, or do you just replace the bro=
ken disk of the two?



I also have plans on replacing the IOM6 modules with IOM12 just as you can =
in the DS4246 shelfs..  any issues with that?



I know this is close if not far beyond what is supported ??



/Heino





Heino Walther<https://www.linkedin.com/in/heinowalther/>

Beardmann ApS<http://beardmann.dk/>

Jellingvej 9 - 7100 Vejle<https://goo.gl/maps/xQVPFMHXpXu>



D: 7199 9060 M: 2075 7501



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<div dir=3D"ltr">Disk failures are a pain. ONTAP prevents two disks in the =
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi there</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Because of space constraints =
I am planning to move my 3 pcs. DS212C into a DS4486.</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">But I have a few questions </=
span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Apple Color Emoji&quot=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">My existing disks are X318 (8=
TB NL-SAS), and I think the caddies for the DS4486 are also SAS, so that sh=
ould technically fit?</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Does the NetApp see 24 or 48 =
disks from the DS4486?&nbsp; Because I plan to reuse existing disks with ag=
gregates on them=85</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I can see the DS4486 use spec=
ial PN as spare disks because the caddy has two disks installed.&nbsp; How =
does NetApp handle the replacement when one disk of the two dies?</span></p=
>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I know the healthy disk is al=
so copied to a spare before you can replace the caddy, but do you then repl=
ace both disks, or do you just replace the broken disk of the two?</span></=
p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I also have plans on replacin=
g the IOM6 modules with IOM12 just as you can in the DS4246 shelfs..&nbsp; =
any issues with that?</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I know this is close if not f=
ar beyond what is supported
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Apple Color Emoji&qu=
ot;">&#128521;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"></span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">/Heino</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;<=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black"><a href=
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n.com/in/heinowalther/"><span style=3D"color:#022B53">Heino Walther</span><=
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or:#022B53">Beardmann ApS</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12.0pt; color:black"></span></p>
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=3D"https://goo.gl/maps/xQVPFMHXpXu" title=3D"https://goo.gl/maps/xQVPFMHXp=
Xu"><span style=3D"color:#022B53">Jellingvej 9 - 7100 Vejle</span></a></spa=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;<=
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