Re: net6501: doesn't start if not first unplugged for 8 minutes

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On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 08:19:16AM -0700, EricB wrote:
> On 3/20/2017 02:11, Julien Cigar wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 01:54:02AM +0100, Freek Dijkstra wrote:
> >> On 20-03-2017 00:49, Jay Grizzard wrote:
> >>
> >>> I haven't fired up my 6501 to check the exact CPU model (...anyone wa=
nt
> >>> to buy it? It's of no use to me since Soekris never released the
> >>> information needed to work with the FPGA), but I wonder if this could
> >>> possibly be what's going on with them:
> >>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/06/cisco_intel_decline_to_link_=
product_warning_to_faulty_chip/
> >> That article seems only related to the Intel Atom C2000.
> >> The net6501 contains an older Intel Atom E640, single chip processor
> >> with EG20T companion chip.
> >>
> >> Of course, that doesn't exclude the possibility that something similar
> >> is the cause.
> >>
> >> At least the lesson I learned from Dries is that it really is related =
to
> >> the CPU, not to the power (as was previously suggested), and that it
> >> might reboot if cooled down for a sufficiently long period of time.
> >>
> >> Well, mine stopped working last December after 5 years of operation as
> >> my home router. I replaced it with something else (a Ubiquity
> >> EdgeRouter), but I still had it lying around (mostly because I wanted =
to
> >> reuse to two mSATA disks, which seems uncommon these days)
> >>
> >> Well 3 months of cooling down should be sufficient, so I couldn't help
> >> to check what happens if I fire it up again, and to my surprise, it did
> >> boot all the way just a few seconds ago!
> >>
> >> Not that it matters much, I guess it still is a bit too unreliable to =
my
> >> taste.
> > We bought 3 6501 2 years ago (for a redundant firewall/router +
> > HAProxy). One of them died after a year, got replaced under warranty and
> > died again 3 months later, another died just a few weeks agos, and the
> > last one suffer from this puzzling "error led" problem (works until
> > reboot, "sometimes" boot later, ...).
> >
> > I think there is definitively an hardware/BIOS issue with the board, I'm
> > confident that the problem doesn't come from the power supply or an
> > overheating from the CPU.
> >
> > As others I'm disappointed that Soekris is so silent on this issue,
> > especially if the root cause doesn't come from a broken bios/PCB
> > design/...
> >
> > As we run FreeBSD, we finally replaced those boxes with a RCC-VE 4860 1=
U=20
> > from Netgate (https://www.netgate.com/products/rcc-ve-4860-1u.html)
> I'm curious if ADI Engineering has addressed the issue that Intel
> identifed with the RCC-VE.  Also curious if those issues with the Intel
> Avoton/C2000 chips is part of why the Soekris net6801 never went to
> production...

https://www.netgate.com/blog/clock-signal-component-issue.html

I really hope it could be fixed with a BIOS upgrade or so...

It's really strange, it looks exactly the same issue as for the 6501, but
the chip is not listed as problematic in the Intel document...=20

(to be followed I guess ...)

> >
> >> Regards,
> >> Freek
> >>
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