Re: CoCo torrent?
RETRO Innovations via Coco <[email protected]> Wed, 3 Jun 2026 01:01:36 -0500
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2894574286545402573== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------cT1SFe4BpknExZn51XSSeptV" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------cT1SFe4BpknExZn51XSSeptV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6/2/2026 11:17 AM, Allen Huffman via Coco wrote: >> On Jun 2, 2026, at 11:13=E2=80=AFAM, RETRO Innovations via Coco=20 >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Setting up the server is easy (Forgejo =E2=80=93 Beyond coding. We forg= e.=20 >> <https://forgejo.org/>, for example) but we should first get a list=20 >> of the sites we want to do this with, and see how the maintainers=20 >> feel about it.=C2=A0 For example: >> >> * If a site maintainer does NOT want their site mirrored, how do we >> respond? >> * If they do, it would be best if they push their changes into the >> repo directly, as an admin, and then their site just pulls from >> the repo like everything else. >> * Or, maybe they want to host their repo, for control reasons, and >> we can all point to it. >> > One concern I have is when someone grabs =E2=80=9Ceverything=E2=80=9D fr= om the coco=20 > archive. That=E2=80=99s =C2=A0huge drain on that server=E2=80=99s bandwi= dth. I=E2=80=99ve been=20 > posting websites since the late 90s, so I=E2=80=99ve never had any conce= rns=20 > about bandwidth because I=E2=80=99ve always had a ton of it for all the = sites=20 > I hosted=E2=80=A6 > > But if it is not an =E2=80=9Cunlimited=E2=80=9D bandwidth account, movin= g to a torrent=20 > would spread out the downloads. That was my original idea =E2=80=94 how = to=20 > mirror without having a bunch of people hit the site. > > If we did go the way of sync, that means if 100 of us wanted =E2=80=9Cal= l the=20 > files=E2=80=9D that is 100 downloads of everything from that server. For= eign=20 > bots took my site down (Cloudflare is now there) which made me aware=20 > of this issue for the first time. > > =E2=80=94 A > > As someone else noted, I think it's best to let some large site host the= =20 repo.=C2=A0 That way, bandwidth is not an issue. But, for your concern, yes, if 100 people want the entire thing and they= =20 have none of it, it's a drain.=C2=A0 But, once the people get the first=20 dload, updating a repo is a "diff" type operation, so only changes get=20 sent. Such is a much smaller issue concerning bandwidth. Jim =2D-=20 RETRO Innovations, Contemporary Gear for Classic Systems www.go4retro.com store.go4retro.com --------------cT1SFe4BpknExZn51XSSeptV Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-= 8"> </head> <body> <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 6/2/2026 11:17 AM, Allen Huffman via Coco wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:52F4CAF7-3AB0-4202-B57B-2A7FD4A4A447-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"> <meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUT= F-8"> <div> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <div>On Jun 2, 2026, at 11:13=E2=80=AFAM, RETRO Innovations via = Coco <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:coco@listser= v.adelphi.edu"><[email protected]></a> wrote:</div> <br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"> <div> <meta charset=3D"UTF-8"> <p style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12p= x; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter= -spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-tr= ansform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-= text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickn= ess: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;">Setting up the server is easy (<a href=3D"https://forgejo.org/" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Forgejo =E2=80=93 Beyond coding. = We forge.</a>, for example) but we should first get a list of the sites we want to do this with, and see how the maintainers feel about it.=C2=A0 For example:</p> <ul style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12p= x; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter= -spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-tr= ansform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-= text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickn= ess: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"> <li>If a site maintainer does NOT want their site mirrored, how do we respond?</li> <li>If they do, it would be best if they push their changes into the repo directly, as an admin, and then their site just pulls from the repo like everything else.</li> <li>Or, maybe they want to host their repo, for control reasons, and we can all point to it.</li> </ul> </div> </blockquote> </div> One concern I have is when someone grabs =E2=80=9Ceverything=E2=80= =9D from the coco archive. That=E2=80=99s =C2=A0huge drain on that server=E2=80= =99s bandwidth. I=E2=80=99ve been posting websites since the late 90s, so I=E2=80=99ve never had = any concerns about bandwidth because I=E2=80=99ve always had a ton of it= for all the sites I hosted=E2=80=A6 <div><br> </div> <div>But if it is not an =E2=80=9Cunlimited=E2=80=9D bandwidth accou= nt, moving to a torrent would spread out the downloads. That was my original idea =E2=80=94 how to mirror without having a bunch of people hit = the site.</div> <div><br> </div> <div>If we did go the way of sync, that means if 100 of us wanted =E2=80=9Call the files=E2=80=9D that is 100 downloads of everythin= g from that server. Foreign bots took my site down (Cloudflare is now there) which made me aware of this issue for the first time.</div> <div><br> </div> <div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"> </sp= an>=E2=80=94 A</div> <div><br> </div> <br> <fieldset class=3D"moz-mime-attachment-header"></fieldset> </blockquote> <p>As someone else noted, I think it's best to let some large site host the repo.=C2=A0 That way, bandwidth is not an issue.</p> <p>But, for your concern, yes, if 100 people want the entire thing and they have none of it, it's a drain.=C2=A0 But, once the people g= et the first dload, updating a repo is a "diff" type operation, so only changes get sent. Such is a much smaller issue concerning bandwidth.</p> <p>Jim</p> <p><br> </p> <pre class=3D"moz-signature" cols=3D"72">--=20 RETRO Innovations, Contemporary Gear for Classic Systems <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"http://www.go4retro.com">www= .go4retro.com</a> store.go4retro.com</pre> </body> </html> --------------cT1SFe4BpknExZn51XSSeptV-- --===============2894574286545402573== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline -- Coco mailing list [email protected] http://listserv.adelphi.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coco --===============2894574286545402573==--