RE: Problems with IAR and programming

Hi Emmett

I have now looked closely at what I have and taken your comments onboard.

I have a MSP430-FET which is connected to a PW28 board and this is linked to
my target board with a 2 way ribbon cable. The PW28 board has its settings
on EXT with a 3.3 plugpack delivering the external power. My target board
has a 12 volt plugpack input which is used to develop 11.3 volts which in
turn drives a 3.3V regulator and a 3.8V regulator. I am running IAR 6.5,
Under these conditions the program crashes when I attempt to build the
project. 
1. Remove the 12V input. Try a build - OK. 
2. Alter the PW28 board so that the power is internal and remove the 3.3V
plugpack. Try a build - ok
3. Put in the 12V plugpack. Try a build - crashes. Restart PC
4. Try again - crashes, restart PC
5. Remove Vcc lead from cable that joins PW28 to my target board, 12V still
connected. Try a build - crashes. Restart PC
6. Check 3.3V delivered by my target board. It has some noise on it of
~50mV. 

In the document SLAU278U it talks about FAQs and says there is a problem
when powered from externally (target board). It suggests linking RST with
pin 11 on the JTAG connector. I tried this but it still crashed. 
My connectors are all short as I did have problems like this a few years
ago. Tomorrow I shall bypass the 11.3V regulator and power the 3.3V
regulator in another way. 

Thanks all for the help 

Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015 8:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [msp430] Problems with IAR and programming

I have many times used the SoftBaugh board with the MSP430F2274 that goes
with their MSP430 State Machine book with my students.  Not always, but
often enough, similar non-operation happens when it is being supplied by its
wall-wart supply and the SoftBaugh USBP programmer.  Occasionally, the PC
locked up and had to be rebooted.  Since it was easy enough to remind
students to have only one or the other but not both sources of power
connected, they could proceed with the programming and then separately test
operation and measure currents etc. 

I never investigated further.

My suspicions are that the two power supplies conflict, cause large currents
to flow, and generate noise that interferes with the digital signals.
Ground loops may also be involved and can cause similar noise issues.

Some (rhetorical) questions for you:

1. Do you ABSOLUTELY have to have both power-supplying devices connected at
the same time to accomplish your desired task?

2. Can you disconnect just the Vcc wire going from your FET to your target
board?

3. Consider ALL possible ground loops and breaking them. (Techniques may
vary and even include 2-to-3 prong adapters on the power cords since the
Safety Ground wire and the Grounded Neutral wire are sometimes both
connected to equipment cases either by design or accident or the case ground
is also the circuit ground, again, either by design or accident.)  Ground
loops are subtle and, sometimes, are cleared without knowing what action
actually cleared them.

HTH

Emmett Redd Ph.D.   mailto:[email protected]
Professor                                 (417)836-5221
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Missouri State University             Fax (417)836-6226
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-- Mark Twain.
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From: [email protected] [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 11:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [msp430] Problems with IAR and programming

I have a target board with a MSP430FR5729. I am using IAR EW6.5 and a
MSP430-FETUIF. I have a MSP-TS430PW28 connected to the FET module and 4
wires going to my target board (Vcc, ground, Test, RST). I have used this
sort of setup many times. My target board has a 12V input and it generates
11volts to be used on board to generate 3.3V and a few other DC voltages.
When I connect the cable from the PW28 board I can program the board and run
it. If I connect the 12 volts to my target board the IAR crashes and I have
to turn my PC off and on. When the 12V is not on the Vcc is 3.32V and if I
have the 12V connected and no FET the Vcc is 3.29V. I cannot see any shorts
to ground and the whole target board draws 17mA when no high power devices
are connected (3G modem). I can program in a led flash and this will work
with no 12V connected. If I remove the FET and apply power the fled will
flash. It seems the program runs but it will not download the program when I
have the 12V connected  . I checked the notes from TI and can see no hints
as to what is happening.


Any suggestions?

TIA

Peter





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