Re: Spy By Wire with the LaunchPad...

"Onestone [email protected] [msp430]" <[email protected]> Fri, 30 Jun 2017 11:38:13 +0930
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Whoever told you that wires from a launchpad wouldn't work mislead you 
badly. It is basically what they are designed for. They have expansion 
connectors to add on boards, these are just short wires really. I'm also 
totally unsurprised that you had problems scoping the signals without 
connecting your scope and board grounds. Sometimes, if you forget this, 
you can even see tiny sparks as you try to hook your scope probe to the 
board.

Glad you sorted things.

Al

On 30/06/2017 3:49 AM, Dan Bloomquist [email protected] [msp430] wrote:
> About a year ago I made this stepper controller for my son's rotary
> table on his mill. I used the FET430UIF at the time as I've been lead to
> believe that wires to an off board chip from a launchpad just would not
> work. FET debugging with the FET430 was a real pain as I could not set
> more than one break point at a time with an MSP430G... chip. So this
> time around I figured I would try the launch pad. It was iffy, once it
> worked with 3" leads. Then I put the chip on the launch pad and used
> jumpers to the target project. Then I started having strange problems,
> like the display would crash but the chip would still debug. So I
> grabbed a scope probe to see what the display data and clock looked
> like. It just started working flawlessly. The light in my head finally
> came on.
>
> My 10 volt supply to the target was floating, I've always worked like
> that. The scope has a hard bench ground. With the scope ground connected
> I could not get it to fail.
>
> So I pulled all those annoying wired from the launch pad to the target,
> put the chip back in the target, and hooked up 6" wires to just RST,
> TEST, and ground. It works flawlessly, again. The real problem was
> depending on the USB ground for the signals to the target. using the
> scope without its ground confirmed that the signals from the launch pad
> where 'soft' if you will. With a bench ground to the the target the
> signals were beautiful. At that, the spy by clock is not that fast,
> 700ns to transfer.
>
> <http://lakeweb.net/CNC/images/rotary_control.jpg>
>
> I've added a DIR switch and cleaned up the motor power end and put that
> in a box.
>
> Best, Dan.
>
>
>
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    <font size="-1">Whoever told you that wires from a launchpad
      wouldn't work mislead you badly. It is basically what they are
      designed for. They have expansion connectors to add on boards,
      these are just short wires really. I'm also totally unsurprised
      that you had problems scoping the signals without connecting your
      scope and board grounds. Sometimes, if you forget this, you can
      even see tiny sparks as you try to hook your scope probe to the
      board.<br>
      <br>
      Glad you sorted things.<br>
      <br>
      Al<br>
    </font><br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/06/2017 3:49 AM, Dan Bloomquist
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [msp430] wrote:<br>
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      <pre wrap="">About a year ago I made this stepper controller for my son's rotary 
table on his mill. I used the FET430UIF at the time as I've been lead to 
believe that wires to an off board chip from a launchpad just would not 
work. FET debugging with the FET430 was a real pain as I could not set 
more than one break point at a time with an MSP430G... chip. So this 
time around I figured I would try the launch pad. It was iffy, once it 
worked with 3" leads. Then I put the chip on the launch pad and used 
jumpers to the target project. Then I started having strange problems, 
like the display would crash but the chip would still debug. So I 
grabbed a scope probe to see what the display data and clock looked 
like. It just started working flawlessly. The light in my head finally 
came on.

My 10 volt supply to the target was floating, I've always worked like 
that. The scope has a hard bench ground. With the scope ground connected 
I could not get it to fail.

So I pulled all those annoying wired from the launch pad to the target, 
put the chip back in the target, and hooked up 6" wires to just RST, 
TEST, and ground. It works flawlessly, again. The real problem was 
depending on the USB ground for the signals to the target. using the 
scope without its ground confirmed that the signals from the launch pad 
where 'soft' if you will. With a bench ground to the the target the 
signals were beautiful. At that, the spy by clock is not that fast, 
700ns to transfer.

<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://lakeweb.net/CNC/images/rotary_control.jpg">&lt;http://lakeweb.net/CNC/images/rotary_control.jpg&gt;</a>

I've added a DIR switch and cleaned up the motor power end and put that 
in a box.

Best, Dan.



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