Re: Help configuring AT with XP and Crossover Cable

john <[email protected]> Sat, 19 Feb 2005 09:14:56 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.hardware.voyetra.audiotron
Message-ID <C55E2E06F369774282A1675D289662EE5C66@JOHNHATHOME.johneharrington.com>
Hmmm, if I'm understanding your post correctly, you've got the WinXp box
on 192.168.0.1 with a subnet of 255.255.255.0.  Is your Atron still at
10.0.0.1?  If so, give the Atron 192.168.0.10 (or whatever), with the
same subnet and see what you get.  I take it the xover cable is
connected to NIC3, correct?  (It should be for this to work.)

The Atron should be fine seeing NIC3 and the XP's Local Area Connection
(NIC1 or whatever) should still see the internet.  Don't give a default
gateway to either the NIC3 or the Atron, as they're not needed.

I think you just about there!  Keep at it... You'll be up and running
this weekend...

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Turtle Beach Audiotron User Forum
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Carlson
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AT] Help configuring AT with XP and Crossover Cable

Ok, I'm getting close. I now can get to the Internet with the AT, but it
can't find the shares. Here's the dump from ipconfig /all:


Windows IP Configuration



        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : tc-xp-hm

        Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :

        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Peer-Peer

        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

        DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : ad.dvd.com



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 3:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI
Fast Ethernet NIC

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-BD-71-86-85

        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : ad.dvd.com

        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100 PCI
For Complete PC Management NIC (3C905C-TX)

        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-01-03-D4-56-F2

        Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 155.132.147.58

        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.248

        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 155.132.147.57

        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 155.132.147.57

        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 155.132.138.22

                                            66.7.169.1

        Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 155.132.167.26

        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, February 18, 2005
5:55:13 PM

        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, February 19, 2005
5:55:13 PM

**********************************************

The NIC that talks to the AT is the Realtek. If I set the DNS to the
same
value as the gateway, 192.168.0.1, then the AT finds the Internet, but
cannot find the shares. If I set the DNS to either 155.132.138.22 or
66.7.169.1, then the AT can't even see the Internet, let alone the
shares.

So, I need to figure out how to get the AT to resolve the name :
TC-XP-HM
where the share is located.

You guys have been a big help getting me this far, and I appreciate your
help.

Thanks,

-Tom

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:18:15 -0800, Tim Hill <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Error 53 is "The network path was not found" so you still have some
>address problems.
>
>You have two DNS problems to solve with this setup:
>
>1. DNS servers are routable. That is, you can set a DNS server that is
>on a different subnet. So you can simply configure the AT with the same
>DNS server address as your PC is using. To find this address, open a
>command prompt and enter the command "ipconfig /all". You'll see a LOT
>of stuff (and, in fact, if you could post the whole lot here it would
>help). Look for the "DNS Servers" line on the ethernet card that
>connects to your ISP (you have two cards now, so make sure to choose
the
>right one).
>
>2. Now the next problem is getting your AT to see the internet. This
>requires that you setup a router between the two NICs so that your PC
>will forward AT requests appropriately. You can do this in Control
>Panel::Network.
>
>--Tim
>
>
>Tim Carlson wrote:
>
>>The name of my PC is TC-XP. It's IP is 10.0.0.10, while the AT is
>>10.0.0.20. Both can ping each other.
>>
>>I think the problem is that I don't have anything configured as the
DNS
>>server, because I don't know what that would be. On the Share Search
>>options page, I've tried entering both \\TC-XP\Audiotron and
\\10.0.0.10
>>\Audiotron.
>>
>>When I use \\10.0.0.10\Audiotron, I get :
>>
>>Host TC-XP found at IP 10.0.0.10
>>\\TC-XP - Error accessing host, Error = 53
>>
>>
>>When I use \\TC-XP\Audiotron I get :
>>
>>Can't get IP address for host TC-XP-HM
>>Completed Operation
>>
>>
>>
>>When the AT pings TC-XP it reports : Ping Failed: No DNS Server
configured.
>>
>>
>>I think I'm close, but I'm getting wrapped around the axle on the DNS
>>server and/or gateway entries when running in this direct connect
mode.
>>
>>Yes, I am running XP SP2 with Firewall. Are there any settings to make
>>with that?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>-Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 04:49:16 -0500, john <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>How have you configured the shares that the Atron is using?  Do you
>>>refer to the "server" by name or the IP address?  If it can ping, but
>>>not see the shares, it could be a name resolution, in which case
>>>referring to the "server" (the one with the music shares) by IP
should
>>>help.  If you look for shares from the Atron interface, are there any
>>>errors listed ("Host not found" or otherwise)?
>>>
>>>Any chance you're running WindowsXP with the firewall enabled?
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Turtle Beach Audiotron User Forum
>>>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Carlson
>>>Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:59 PM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: [AT] Help configuring AT with XP and Crossover Cable
>>>
>>>I seem to be getting closer. After changing the binding order, I can
now
>>>see the Internet just fine using my #1 NIC.
>>>
>>>The #2NIC is connected to the AT and I can get to the web config
pages
>>>of
>>>the AT, but I can't seem to get the AT to find my shares. The AT can
>>>ping
>>>NIC#2.
>>>
>>>On the AT, what does it want for Gateway and DNS Server values? I've
>>>tried
>>>using the IP of NIC#2 for the Gateway (10.0.0.2) but that doesn't
seem
>>>to
>>>work.
>>>
>>>Again, the values I have entered for the AT are:
>>>
>>>IP 10.0.0.4
>>>SN 255.255.255.0
>>>Gateway 10.0.0.2 - The IP of the NIC at the end of the crossover
>>>DNS - I have no idea what to enter here.
>>>
>>>
>>>The NIC#2 in my PC:
>>>IP 10.0.0.2
>>>SN 255.255.255.0
>>>Gateway - nothing, If I enter the IP of the router here, I lose the
>>>Internet on my primary (NIC#1) connection.
>>>
>>>Any ideas?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>-Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>We have a similar situation in our lab:  Frontend (network-facing)
NIC
>>>with gateway and Backend (private-subgroup-facing) NIC with no
gateway.
>>>Works fine.  The PC is going to need a gateway to get to the
Internet,
>>>so
>>>the NIC connecting to the router needs the gateway, which should be
the
>>>IP
>>>of the router.
>>>
>>>When we've had problems in the past, it's because the binding order
had
>>>the Backend NIC listed first, so it never saw the internet.  If you
go
>>>to
>>>Network Settings in Control Panel, the Advanced Menu (up top),
there's a
>>>tab with the binding order listed.  Make sure your PC-to-Gateway NIC
is
>>>listed first.
>>>
>>>I hope I didn't confuse the hell out of you!  Sorry if I did...
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>