Re: AT analog output

BTW, further to these postings I got an MSB DAC from Audiogon. Major =
improvement over analog outs. On some stuff it's quite astounding. =
Thanks very much for the info and advice.
Grant
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jamie Edgar=20
  To: [email protected]=20
  Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [AT] AT analog output


  Is TurtleRadio up an running?  I get the following errors:

  "Looking for new Stations
  Error connecting to TurtleRadio - Station List server not available
  Completed Operation"

  Jamie

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Turtle Beach Audiotron User Forum
  [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Broome
  Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 2:31 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AT] AT analog output

  If you notice the difference in bass, you need to try a DAC =
(digital-analog
  converter). If you don't want to replace your receiver just yet with =
one
  that includes an internal dac, get a used external dac on ebay or =
audiogon.

  I use an Audio Alchemy Dac-in-the-Box made in the early 90s with one =
of my
  ATs, and a MSB Link DAC with the other. Major difference compared to =
the AT
  analog outs, particularly in the bass.  When I first got my AT, I was
  disappointed thinking mp3 encoding was responsible for removing the =
low end.
  Adding the DITB ($50 off ebay 4 years ago) brought my '-preset =
extreme' mp3s
  close enough to my CD player for me not to notice the difference day =
to day.

  If you do a search , there are arguments as to the difference a DAC =
will
  make.  Some people notice a big difference, some don't. For me, it =
made a
  world of difference.  If you notice your CD player has much better =
bass, you
  probably will too.

  -Andrew


  --- Jeff Baskin <[email protected]> wrote:

  > Recently, I plugged my CD player back in and actually played a good
  > old fashioned original CD. I was suprised how good the CD sounded
  > after many months of only playing music through the AT. So, I tried =
a
  > little experiement comparing the same track ripped differently =
against
  > the CD played through the CD player. Now keep in mind, my CD player =
is
  > nothing special. It's a rather old Denon 5 disc changer using analog
  > outs.
  >
  > First, I compared the track ripped at 128 kb/s using MusicMatch
  > against the CD. Well, I don't have to tell you what a joke that was.
  >
  > I then compared again with the same track ripped at 320 kb/s using
  > EAC/LAME preset insane. The difference was noticeable, but the CD
  > still sounded significantly better.
  >
  > Finally I compared the WAV ripped using EAC. I thought that the WAV =
at
  > least had to be at least close to the CD in quality, but it was =
barely
  > any better than the 320 CBR mp3.
  >
  > Now, I am using the analog outputs on the AT, so I had to adjust the
  > volume when comparing, but there was also a very big difference in =
the
  > depth of the sound especially in the base. Even the WAV had much =
less
  > base than the CD.
  > So, here are my questions: Is the analog output on the AT SO BAD to
  > explain such a difference? Is there any way to improve the quality =
of
  > the analog outs without opening up the box? Should the quality of a
  > WAV played through the AT digital out be at least as good as a CD
  > played through a decent consumer grade CD player with analog =
outputs??
  > I just would like to know what kind of difference I should expect
  > before blowing $$  on a new receiver with optical inputs.
  >
  > Thanks for your input.
  >
  > Jeff
  >



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