Re: ansel Digest, Vol 222, Issue 2

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>    1. Re: Help with Ansel Install (John H. Bennett III)
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> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:32:59 -0600
> From: "John H. Bennett III" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ansel] Help with Ansel Install
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> Quoting "Michael J. Rubinsky" <[email protected]>:
>
>>
>> Quoting "John H. Bennett III" <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> I tried installing Ansel today and have run into some issues trying
>>> to get it to work.  I'm using horde 3.3.6 with ansel 1.1, and other
>>> current stable horde components.  I have php 4.3.9.  This is
>>> running under SME Server which runs on CentOS.
>>>
>>> I can get it installed, create a gallery, and upload photos.  When
>>> looking at the gallery, I have an image placeholder with a red X.
>>> Looking at my logs, I see a lot of this:
>>> Dec 30 21:31:32 www HORDE[10553]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>> [pid 10553 on line 2257 of
>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>> Dec 30 21:31:32 www HORDE[10553]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>> [pid 10553 on line 2736 of
>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>> Dec 30 21:31:32 www HORDE[10553]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>> [pid 10553 on line 45 of
>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/img/prettythumb.php"]
>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10618]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>> [pid 10618 on line 2257 of
>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10618]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>> [pid 10618 on line 2736 of
>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10618]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>> [pid 10618 on line 45 of
>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/img/prettythumb.php"]
>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10538]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>> [pid 10538 on line 2257 of
>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10538]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>> [pid 10538 on line 2736 of
>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10538]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>> [pid 10538 on line 44 of "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/img/mini.php"]
>>>
>>>
>>> So I have missed a step or messed something up.  I used this linke
>>> as my reference, http://www.horde.org/ansel/docs/?f=INSTALL.html.
>>> My test.php info show:
>>> Ansel Version
>>> Ansel: H3 (1.1)
>>> Other Horde Applications
>>> horde: Yes (Version: 3.3.6)
>>> agora: No
>>> Agora provides the ability for users to comment on images.
>>> PHP Version
>>> PHP Version: 4.3.9
>>> PHP Major Version: 4.3
>>> PHP Minor Version: 9
>>> PHP Version Classification: release
>>> You are running a supported version of PHP.
>>> PHP Module Capabilities
>>> GD Support: Yes
>>> Imagick Library: No
>>> Ansel can make use of the Imagick Library, if it is installed on
>>> your system. It is highly recommended to use either ImageMagick's
>>> convert utility or the Imagick php library for faster results.
>>> Zip Support: No
>>> Ansel can make use of PHP's Zip extension for more efficiently
>>> processing uploaded ZIP files..
>>> OpenCV Library: No
>>> Ansel can make use of the OpenCV PHP extension for automatically
>>> detecting human faces in images. You need either this library or
>>> the one immediately below to detect human faces.
>>> Facedetect Face Detection Library: No
>>> Ansel can make use of the Facedetect PHP extension for
>>> automatically detecting human faces in images. You need either
>>> OpenCV (above) or Facedetect to detect human faces.
>>> Puzzle Library: No
>>> Ansel can make use of the libpuzzle PHP extension for finding
>>> similar images based on image content.
>>> Ansel Configuration Files
>>> config/conf.php: Yes
>>> config/prefs.php: Yes
>>> PEAR Modules
>>> PEAR Search Path (PHP's include_path):
>>> /home/httpd/html/horde/lib:/usr/share/pear-addons:/usr/share/pear
>>> PEAR: Yes
>>> Recent PEAR: Yes
>>> MDB2: Yes
>>>
>>>
>>> My conf.php:
>>> <?php
>>> /* CONFIG START. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IN OR AFTER THIS LINE. */
>>> // $Horde: ansel/config/conf.xml,v 1.49.2.11 2009-06-15 17:13:38
>>> mrubinsk Exp $
>>> $conf['gallery']['downloadzip'] = false;
>>> $conf['gallery']['customlabel'] = true;
>>> $conf['menu']['print'] = true;
>>> $conf['menu']['apps'] = array();
>>> $conf['images']['type'] = 'horde';
>>> $conf['vfs']['src'] = 'php';
>>> $conf['image']['type'] = 'jpeg';
>>> $conf['image']['autogen'] = '1';
>>> $conf['image']['prettythumbs'] = true;
>>> $conf['image']['num_uploads'] = '5';
>>> $conf['thumbnail']['perpage'] = '30';
>>> $conf['thumbnail']['width'] = '150';
>>> $conf['thumbnail']['height'] = '150';
>>> $conf['screen']['width'] = '800';
>>> $conf['screen']['height'] = '600';
>>> $conf['ecard']['enable'] = true;
>>> $conf['comments']['allow'] = 'never';
>>> $conf['ansel_cache']['usecache'] = false;
>>> $conf['tags']['relatedtags'] = false;
>>> $conf['report_content']['driver'] = false;
>>> $conf['ages']['limits'] = array();
>>> $conf['ages']['hook'] = false;
>>> $conf['faces']['driver'] = 'user';
>>> $conf['faces']['search'] = '7';
>>> /* CONFIG END. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IN OR BEFORE THIS LINE. */
>>
>>
>> According to your settings, you've told Ansel to use the same VFS
>> settings that you have setup for Horde overall. What driver did you
>> choose to use for VFS in Horde's config?
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> mike
>>
>> --
>> The Horde Project (www.horde.org)
>> [email protected]
>>
>
> I have it set to /tmp.
>
> horde's conf.php
> $conf['vfs']['params']['vfsroot'] = '/tmp';
> $conf['vfs']['type'] = 'file';
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
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> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:09:38 -0500
> From: Michael Rubinsky <[email protected]>
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> Quoting "John H. Bennett III" <[email protected]>:
>
>> Quoting "Michael J. Rubinsky" <[email protected]>:
>>
>>>
>>> Quoting "John H. Bennett III" <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> I tried installing Ansel today and have run into some issues
>>>> trying  to get it to work.  I'm using horde 3.3.6 with ansel 1.1,
>>>> and other  current stable horde components.  I have php 4.3.9.
>>>> This is  running under SME Server which runs on CentOS.
>>>>
>>>> I can get it installed, create a gallery, and upload photos.  When
>>>>  looking at the gallery, I have an image placeholder with a red X.
>>>>   Looking at my logs, I see a lot of this:
>>>> Dec 30 21:31:32 www HORDE[10553]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>>>  [pid 10553 on line 2257 of
>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>>> Dec 30 21:31:32 www HORDE[10553]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>>>  [pid 10553 on line 2736 of
>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>>> Dec 30 21:31:32 www HORDE[10553]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>>>  [pid 10553 on line 45 of
>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/img/prettythumb.php"]
>>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10618]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>>>  [pid 10618 on line 2257 of
>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10618]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>>>  [pid 10618 on line 2736 of
>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10618]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>>>  [pid 10618 on line 45 of
>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/img/prettythumb.php"]
>>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10538]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>>>  [pid 10538 on line 2257 of
>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10538]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>>>  [pid 10538 on line 2736 of
>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10538]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS file.
>>>>  [pid 10538 on line 44 of
>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/img/mini.php"]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So I have missed a step or messed something up.  I used this linke
>>>>  as my reference, http://www.horde.org/ansel/docs/?f=INSTALL.html.
>>>>   My test.php info show:
>>>> Ansel Version
>>>> Ansel: H3 (1.1)
>>>> Other Horde Applications
>>>> horde: Yes (Version: 3.3.6)
>>>> agora: No
>>>> Agora provides the ability for users to comment on images.
>>>> PHP Version
>>>> PHP Version: 4.3.9
>>>> PHP Major Version: 4.3
>>>> PHP Minor Version: 9
>>>> PHP Version Classification: release
>>>> You are running a supported version of PHP.
>>>> PHP Module Capabilities
>>>> GD Support: Yes
>>>> Imagick Library: No
>>>> Ansel can make use of the Imagick Library, if it is installed on
>>>> your system. It is highly recommended to use either ImageMagick's
>>>> convert utility or the Imagick php library for faster results.
>>>> Zip Support: No
>>>> Ansel can make use of PHP's Zip extension for more efficiently
>>>> processing uploaded ZIP files..
>>>> OpenCV Library: No
>>>> Ansel can make use of the OpenCV PHP extension for automatically
>>>> detecting human faces in images. You need either this library or
>>>> the one immediately below to detect human faces.
>>>> Facedetect Face Detection Library: No
>>>> Ansel can make use of the Facedetect PHP extension for
>>>> automatically detecting human faces in images. You need either
>>>> OpenCV (above) or Facedetect to detect human faces.
>>>> Puzzle Library: No
>>>> Ansel can make use of the libpuzzle PHP extension for finding
>>>> similar images based on image content.
>>>> Ansel Configuration Files
>>>> config/conf.php: Yes
>>>> config/prefs.php: Yes
>>>> PEAR Modules
>>>> PEAR Search Path (PHP's include_path):
>>>> /home/httpd/html/horde/lib:/usr/share/pear-addons:/usr/share/pear
>>>> PEAR: Yes
>>>> Recent PEAR: Yes
>>>> MDB2: Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My conf.php:
>>>> <?php
>>>> /* CONFIG START. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IN OR AFTER THIS LINE. */
>>>> // $Horde: ansel/config/conf.xml,v 1.49.2.11 2009-06-15 17:13:38
>>>> mrubinsk Exp $
>>>> $conf['gallery']['downloadzip'] = false;
>>>> $conf['gallery']['customlabel'] = true;
>>>> $conf['menu']['print'] = true;
>>>> $conf['menu']['apps'] = array();
>>>> $conf['images']['type'] = 'horde';
>>>> $conf['vfs']['src'] = 'php';
>>>> $conf['image']['type'] = 'jpeg';
>>>> $conf['image']['autogen'] = '1';
>>>> $conf['image']['prettythumbs'] = true;
>>>> $conf['image']['num_uploads'] = '5';
>>>> $conf['thumbnail']['perpage'] = '30';
>>>> $conf['thumbnail']['width'] = '150';
>>>> $conf['thumbnail']['height'] = '150';
>>>> $conf['screen']['width'] = '800';
>>>> $conf['screen']['height'] = '600';
>>>> $conf['ecard']['enable'] = true;
>>>> $conf['comments']['allow'] = 'never';
>>>> $conf['ansel_cache']['usecache'] = false;
>>>> $conf['tags']['relatedtags'] = false;
>>>> $conf['report_content']['driver'] = false;
>>>> $conf['ages']['limits'] = array();
>>>> $conf['ages']['hook'] = false;
>>>> $conf['faces']['driver'] = 'user';
>>>> $conf['faces']['search'] = '7';
>>>> /* CONFIG END. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IN OR BEFORE THIS LINE. */
>>>
>>>
>>> According to your settings, you've told Ansel to use the same VFS
>>> settings that you have setup for Horde overall. What driver did you
>>>  choose to use for VFS in Horde's config?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>> mike
>>>
>>> --
>>> The Horde Project (www.horde.org)
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>
>> I have it set to /tmp.
>>
>> horde's conf.php
>> $conf['vfs']['params']['vfsroot'] = '/tmp';
>> $conf['vfs']['type'] = 'file';
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>>
>
> Check to be sure that /tmp is readable and writable by the webserver
> user. Also, check inside the /tmp directory and see if you can find
> /tmp/.horde/ansel/, this should contain lots of numbered directories,
> which in turn contain the images.  If that fails, watch the webserver
> and/or horde log while you are *uploading* the images to be sure they
> are saved correctly.
>
> Thanks,
> mike
>
> --
> The Horde Project (www.horde.org)
> [email protected]
>
> "Time just hates me. That's why it made me an adult." - Josh Joplin
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> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:45:42 -0600
> From: "John H. Bennett III" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [ansel] Help with Ansel Install
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> Quoting Michael Rubinsky <[email protected]>:
>
>> Quoting "John H. Bennett III" <[email protected]>:
>>
>>> Quoting "Michael J. Rubinsky" <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quoting "John H. Bennett III" <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>> I tried installing Ansel today and have run into some issues
>>>>> trying  to get it to work.  I'm using horde 3.3.6 with ansel 1.1,
>>>>>  and other  current stable horde components.  I have php 4.3.9.
>>>>> This is  running under SME Server which runs on CentOS.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can get it installed, create a gallery, and upload photos.
>>>>> When   looking at the gallery, I have an image placeholder with a
>>>>> red X.    Looking at my logs, I see a lot of this:
>>>>> Dec 30 21:31:32 www HORDE[10553]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS
>>>>> file.   [pid 10553 on line 2257 of
>>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>>>> Dec 30 21:31:32 www HORDE[10553]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS
>>>>> file.   [pid 10553 on line 2736 of
>>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>>>> Dec 30 21:31:32 www HORDE[10553]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS
>>>>> file.   [pid 10553 on line 45 of
>>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/img/prettythumb.php"]
>>>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10618]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS
>>>>> file.   [pid 10618 on line 2257 of
>>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10618]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS
>>>>> file.   [pid 10618 on line 2736 of
>>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10618]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS
>>>>> file.   [pid 10618 on line 45 of
>>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/img/prettythumb.php"]
>>>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10538]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS
>>>>> file.   [pid 10538 on line 2257 of
>>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10538]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS
>>>>> file.   [pid 10538 on line 2736 of
>>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/lib/Ansel.php"]
>>>>> Dec 30 21:31:33 www HORDE[10538]: [ansel] Unable to open VFS
>>>>> file.   [pid 10538 on line 44 of
>>>>> "/home/httpd/html/horde/ansel/img/mini.php"]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So I have missed a step or messed something up.  I used this
>>>>> linke   as my reference,
>>>>> http://www.horde.org/ansel/docs/?f=INSTALL.html.    My test.php
>>>>> info show:
>>>>> Ansel Version
>>>>> Ansel: H3 (1.1)
>>>>> Other Horde Applications
>>>>> horde: Yes (Version: 3.3.6)
>>>>> agora: No
>>>>> Agora provides the ability for users to comment on images.
>>>>> PHP Version
>>>>> PHP Version: 4.3.9
>>>>> PHP Major Version: 4.3
>>>>> PHP Minor Version: 9
>>>>> PHP Version Classification: release
>>>>> You are running a supported version of PHP.
>>>>> PHP Module Capabilities
>>>>> GD Support: Yes
>>>>> Imagick Library: No
>>>>> Ansel can make use of the Imagick Library, if it is installed on
>>>>>  your system. It is highly recommended to use either
>>>>> ImageMagick's   convert utility or the Imagick php library for
>>>>> faster results.
>>>>> Zip Support: No
>>>>> Ansel can make use of PHP's Zip extension for more efficiently
>>>>> processing uploaded ZIP files..
>>>>> OpenCV Library: No
>>>>> Ansel can make use of the OpenCV PHP extension for automatically
>>>>>  detecting human faces in images. You need either this library or
>>>>>   the one immediately below to detect human faces.
>>>>> Facedetect Face Detection Library: No
>>>>> Ansel can make use of the Facedetect PHP extension for
>>>>> automatically detecting human faces in images. You need either
>>>>> OpenCV (above) or Facedetect to detect human faces.
>>>>> Puzzle Library: No
>>>>> Ansel can make use of the libpuzzle PHP extension for finding
>>>>> similar images based on image content.
>>>>> Ansel Configuration Files
>>>>> config/conf.php: Yes
>>>>> config/prefs.php: Yes
>>>>> PEAR Modules
>>>>> PEAR Search Path (PHP's include_path):
>>>>> /home/httpd/html/horde/lib:/usr/share/pear-addons:/usr/share/pear
>>>>> PEAR: Yes
>>>>> Recent PEAR: Yes
>>>>> MDB2: Yes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My conf.php:
>>>>> <?php
>>>>> /* CONFIG START. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IN OR AFTER THIS LINE. */
>>>>> // $Horde: ansel/config/conf.xml,v 1.49.2.11 2009-06-15 17:13:38
>>>>>  mrubinsk Exp $
>>>>> $conf['gallery']['downloadzip'] = false;
>>>>> $conf['gallery']['customlabel'] = true;
>>>>> $conf['menu']['print'] = true;
>>>>> $conf['menu']['apps'] = array();
>>>>> $conf['images']['type'] = 'horde';
>>>>> $conf['vfs']['src'] = 'php';
>>>>> $conf['image']['type'] = 'jpeg';
>>>>> $conf['image']['autogen'] = '1';
>>>>> $conf['image']['prettythumbs'] = true;
>>>>> $conf['image']['num_uploads'] = '5';
>>>>> $conf['thumbnail']['perpage'] = '30';
>>>>> $conf['thumbnail']['width'] = '150';
>>>>> $conf['thumbnail']['height'] = '150';
>>>>> $conf['screen']['width'] = '800';
>>>>> $conf['screen']['height'] = '600';
>>>>> $conf['ecard']['enable'] = true;
>>>>> $conf['comments']['allow'] = 'never';
>>>>> $conf['ansel_cache']['usecache'] = false;
>>>>> $conf['tags']['relatedtags'] = false;
>>>>> $conf['report_content']['driver'] = false;
>>>>> $conf['ages']['limits'] = array();
>>>>> $conf['ages']['hook'] = false;
>>>>> $conf['faces']['driver'] = 'user';
>>>>> $conf['faces']['search'] = '7';
>>>>> /* CONFIG END. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING IN OR BEFORE THIS LINE. */
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> According to your settings, you've told Ansel to use the same VFS
>>>>  settings that you have setup for Horde overall. What driver did
>>>> you   choose to use for VFS in Horde's config?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> The Horde Project (www.horde.org)
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have it set to /tmp.
>>>
>>> horde's conf.php
>>> $conf['vfs']['params']['vfsroot'] = '/tmp';
>>> $conf['vfs']['type'] = 'file';
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Check to be sure that /tmp is readable and writable by the webserver
>>  user. Also, check inside the /tmp directory and see if you can find
>>  /tmp/.horde/ansel/, this should contain lots of numbered
>> directories,  which in turn contain the images.  If that fails,
>> watch the webserver  and/or horde log while you are *uploading* the
>> images to be sure they  are saved correctly.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> mike
>>
>> --
>> The Horde Project (www.horde.org)
>> [email protected]
>>
>> "Time just hates me. That's why it made me an adult." - Josh Joplin
>>
>
> Yes, /tmp is writeabe by the webserver user.  I see other files there
> with the webserver users name.  Would /tmp be the place where all of
> my photos would be stored?  If so, I don't think I want that.  I also
> don't have a /tmp/.horde/ansel directory.  I only a directory called
> scheduler.
>
> My webserver logs show:
> [Thu Dec 31 09:25:52 2009] [error] [client 10.10.10.125] File does not
> exist: /.../horde/ansel/themes/graphics/arrow_switch.png, referer:
> https://www.thebennetthome2.com/horde/ansel/view.php?gallery=3&view=Gallery&havesearch=0&slug=
> [Thu Dec 31 09:25:52 2009] [error] [client 10.10.10.125] File does not
> exist: /.../horde/ansel/themes/graphics/loading.gif, referer:
> https://www.thebennetthome2.com/horde/ansel/view.php?gallery=3&view=Gallery&havesearch=0&slug=
>
> Those two files really don't exist
>
> I just changed the Ansel VFS to SQL and my file upload was successfull
> and I can see my photos, so that will give me the ability to play
> around with this.
Download arrow_switch.png direct from CVS as it is not included in the  
package-
http://cvs.horde.org/ansel/themes/graphics/?onb=HEAD
Loading.gif is not there so I have attached it to this reply

Regards, Kenneth.
http://kmiles.co.uk

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