Re: Last Straw... I have had it!

Lester Caine <[email protected]> Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:25:50 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.ide.eclipse.phpeclipse.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Edward Mann wrote:
> Also as it seems only two people tend to answer these posts, Mbowie, we
> will have an arm wrestling match and the winner get's to decide if we
> push 1.2.0 out with 3.3 support only.  The 1.2.0 series will support
> Eclipse 3.3. The 1.3.0 will support 3.4, and if we can get stuff done
> quicker than the 1.2.0 release, we will work on making 1.4.0 work with
> Eclipse 3.5 and have it out close to the time they do the next major
> release of Eclipse. Then maybe for the 3.6 release of Eclipse we can get
> in on the "all plug-ins release at same time" fun. 
> 
>>From talking with someone (zx) in the Eclipse channel we should target a
> release of PHPEclipse per Eclipse release. Because some items that we
> depend upon in a new release of PHPEclipse may not be in an older
> release of Eclipse. And like i said before we are not a large team, so
> we cannot branch and have people support different versions. But then
> again if someone wants to step forward and do that i am all for it. But
> your not volunteering me for the job. I don't mind fixing bugs, but it's
> gotta be worth fixing for me.

As a user of a very old version of Eclipse ... I still have 3.1 on the laptop 
... I'm more than happy with that. I have no idea what bug you are trying to 
fix - my builds of phpEclipse run fine, and the only thing that gives me jip 
is the 'tra' error bug - which is fixed on the 3.2 version. I just have not 
had time to move the laptop on.

I STILL run Borland Builder 5/6, although the code editing is normally done in 
Eclipse. The simple cost of moving all that code forward to the latest 
Codegear compile is not worth the effort.

The point I am probably making is WHY do we have to continually move the goal 
posts - and that starts at the OS level. Commercial interests like M$ would 
collapse if they could not wring more money out of people for useless updates 
such as XP and Vista. I'm still putting W2k on machines because it works well 
- especially when I don't want any of the M$ crap. They only run apache/php 
and firebird. NOW my most adament 'windows only' customers are allowing Linux 
in to power those machines - change another one Tuesday!

With the continual moving target - something which is an utter waste of OUR 
time but which we can't do anything about - then lines have to be drawn. PHP4 
has finally been laid to rest, earlier versions of Java are being dropped from 
support, even Linux has gained the useless feature churn on every new release. 
SO I have no problem with 'you need 1.1.0 on Eclipse 3.2' - I'm not sure if it 
is even practical, but the Eclipse INSTALLER should be able to understand 
that? They are the ones CREATING the problem so they need to be part of the 
solution?

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