Re: joint occurrences?

Travis Wilson <[email protected]> Sat, 1 Nov 2003 15:01:04 -0800 (PST)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.infodesign.facetedclassification
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Good discussion, with a good example to play with. I'll try to go through 
my solution step by step.

Sounds like the real facet you're talking about is "who appears in the 
episode". This is the fundamental attribute of the episode, orthogonal to 
"episode number" and "director" and "genre" and so forth.

Next step: what are the headings (or topics) the user can choose from in 
that facet? The question is easy if the answer can simply be [Midget, Evil 
Bob, Willy, Grandma, etc]. But we want more than that, we want the set to 
be all possible permutations of [Midget, Midget in pink slip, Midget in 
torn pink slip, Evil Bob, Evil Bob twirling his mustache, Evil Bob in pink 
slip, etc. etc. etc.]

Yeah, that's a big set of headings. We could organize them into a single 
hierarchy as Eric outlined, which is where I recoil in horror as Eric also 
outlined. We are architects of faceted systems!! How in the world did we 
end up here?!?

There is every reason to apply faceted classification to EACH of the 
headings in the "appearances" facet. Using the same principles, we make a 
whole new facetmap. In this new facetmap, the "appearances" headings are 
the resources which get mapped to facets of their own. This is an 
important and powerful notion -- it's not a sub-facet scheme in the same 
map, it's a new map built on top of the basic one.

To simplify the interface, we'll do this. Say you're going through a 
facetmap browsing process <http://facetmap.com> and you want to select a 
heading in the "appearances" facet. A new window pops up, giving you a new 
browsing scheme with facets like "character", "outfit", "state of 
undress", "activity". You select some combination of headings in the 
facets -- say you end up with "Evil Bob wearing something leather". Note 
you don't have to use all the facets, and you can pick a general heading 
like "something leather" if the hierarchy is set up that way.

You've created a complex heading: "Evil Bob wearing something leather". 
You can take that heading back to the original facetmap navigation, and 
use it in the "appearance" facet. Yee haw! It can be combined with other 
facets however you see fit.

This is the sort of thing I've had in mind for a while, but for which I 
haven't developed the interface. I would love to know if it sounds 
realistic to you.

Thanks,
Travis Wilson
Development
http://facetmap.com


On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, Eric Scheid wrote:

> However, what if I wanted (well, not me, I've got interesting clients, but
> anyway) a comprehensive classification of all episodes wherein various
> characters appeared in various states of undress ... hunky lead with shirt
> off, evil nemesis flexing his biceps, etc. Complete with associated
> references such as "in chains", "leather pants", "slinky nightwear".
> 
> This could be represented in a 2 dimensional table quite easily, but how
> would something like this be represented in a facetted structure?



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