RE: New year introductions
"Marcel van Mackelenbergh" <[email protected]> Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:10:43 +0100
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Pete, I am not that harsh on your implementation of faceted metadata. However, I do have a strong "complaint" that I hope you can withstand. My problem with Endeca is that it is fully automatic. I can't get my fingers anymore in between. I think the whole idea of the metadata-world is that it enables experts to make useful information accessible. I think the open directory project (dmoz.org) is a good example, but there are many more. Therefore my complaint about Endeca: do not give me thousands of facets but let me determine what 10 facets I need. Do not determine what facets deserve priority but let me determine that, using an open source standard (any of the w3c standards). Can you pick up my challenge? Can all data Endeca uses, become fully open source? Algorithms are nice as long as they help but please leave the control with me. One thing I learned is that software should always be replacable. The first thing I look at is whether it will make my customer dependent or can the software be replaced by another package without breaking up the whole architecture. Another remark about Endeca is the pricing. Why is it only available (payable) to the big companies? Why isn't there for example a PC version? cheers, Marcel Marcel van Mackelenbergh Human Performance Engineer P.C. Hooftstraat 20 5242CH Rosmalen the Netherlands telephone: +31 73 522 3022 email: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] homepage: <http://members.home.nl/mackelenbergh> http://members.home.nl/mackelenbergh -----Original Message----- From: pgusbell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: vrijdag 9 januari 2004 0:13 To: [email protected] Subject: [facetedclassification] New year introductions Hello out there - I've been enjoying this interesting group. I'm Pete Bell from Endeca, a software company based in Cambridge, MA with regional sales offices around the US, UK, and Europe. Since 1999, we've been developing Search and Guided Navigation software that makes it easier for people to find information at corporate information portals and intranets, government, and ecommerce sites. What is Guided Navigation? It's Endeca's brand name for our flavor of faceted search and navigation. (I like to separate faceted search and navigation from faceted classification, since the two aren't always paired, and both have their intricacies. As I've worked with you in the IA community over the past few years, I've become very interested in the interplay between faceted classification, and faceted search and navigation. It's fertile grounds for research since large scale implementations are so new.) Some of the distinguishing elements of Guided Navigation: -Massive scale: Examples of commercial deployments run on over 1 billion records, thousands of facets, millions of categories within a hierarchical facet, and terabytes of records, while maintaining the same fast speeds you see on our smaller deployments, all while incrementally updating data. -Enterprise strength: Takes records and facets from nearly any source system with packaged adaptors and APIs (e.g. content management systems, databases, ERP, CRM, PLM), format (225 file formats), and language (over 250). It's based on a platform that makes it easy to develop applications, built around open standards and rich APIs, with friendly GUI tools that reflect the business processes needed to create and maintain applications. -Innovative faceted search and browse features: Includes extensive controls to iteratively relevance rank the facets, and the categories within each facet; and clever search features for multi-term queries that cross facets. -Committed R&D: We've invested well over 100 person years in Guided Navigation, and continue to invest heavily in pure research in this fascinating field. Over 100 customers run Guided Navigation in close to 150 commercial deployments. Some public-facing implementations include Barnes & Noble's BookBrowser, IBM (e.g. the Notebook Finder, linked on their front page), and KB Toys. Many other deployments are behind firewalls, like In-Q-Tel (an advanced technology arm of the CIA), and the Congressional Research Service at the Library of Congress. PeterV, I see from a quick web search on you that you're not a fan of Endeca ("They hide details behind wades of marketing blab though. They have a (painful) flash demo that shows something of the interface: it seems a klunky implementation of a faceted search.") Nevertheless, if any masochists out there want to see more, please visit the painful flash demo I built at www.endeca.com/demos, and if you want to learn more about any of our commercial deployments, feel free to email me off-line. Pete ---------- Thanks for playing. _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/facetedclassification/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]?subject=Unsubs cribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- Thanks for playing. Yahoo! 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