Re: Hermathena and Cicero

Conrad,

> Ah, I would not leap to the
> same conclusion of papal
> infallibility. I think he was
> mistaken, and the artist had
> followed the standard practice
> of his day in engraving onto
> plates of polished copper.

Thinking some more about this, I checked with 2 other experts in my 
circle (Tony Campbell, who knows a great deal about antique maps and 
the plates used to produce them + Hendrik Vervliet, an expert in 
physical bibliography and Renaissance texts, who's recently been 
trying to teach me the basics of his challenging field, with only 
partial success, I fear ;-) and neither of them know anything about 
"bronze engravings" either.

Tony's never (knowingly) encountered these used for maps

	"The handy guide by Antony Griffiths, head of Prints in the
	British Museum, 'Prints and Printmaking', doesn't include
	bronze in his glossary.  Though he might have included it in
	his summary text.

	"I'm sure there are more thorough studies that would throw
	light on that, but it's not something I have ever (knowingly)
	encountered with maps."

and Hendrik (who has asked me for more scholarly minutiae on 1555 
issues and editions because, as another scholar has observed, "no two 
copies of a Renaissance printed book ever appear to be completely 
identical", and the several variants of Bocchi's _Symbolicae 
Quaestiones_ are even more random than most!) agrees with you that 
Julius III was probably mistaken.

So, with all 3 of you in agreement on this, and no evidence of bronze 
engravings -- whether prints, maps, or in books -- to be had anywhere 
that we know of, I'm more than happy to accept your argument that 
Julius III was mistaken/confused in his metals.

Again, a hearty thanks for your insights and help with this! <vbg>

Deborah
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Deborah Taylor-Pearce
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