Re: Learning more from harder-to-read fonts?
Gunnar Swanson <[email protected]> Sat, 4 Jun 2011 11:59:58 -0400
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On Jun 4, 2011, at 9:23 AM, Charles Foster wrote: > I think the problem for information designers with studies like this is t= hat they run so directly against our own instincts and training. For the mo= st part, we spend our time trying to make text more easy to read and thereb= y more useable by our clients. The whole notion of disfluency -- of making = something less fluent, less useable and more ugly =96=96 is an anathema, an= d sounds like something cooked up by academics rather than practitioners. I= 'm afraid that I simply cannot accept that the production of any sort of te= aching material in Comic Sans, Hattenschweiler or Monotype Corsiva is a goo= d idea. One could dismiss it all as "cooked up by academics" but there -was- quite = a bit of discussion about twenty years ago about making reading more diffic= ult to change reading attitudes. I have some real problems with the dismiss= iveness of both the phrases "cooked up" and "by academics" but I'm willing = to state that some of Kathy McCoy's claims in -Cranbrook Design: The New Di= scourse- seemed to be somewhere in the silly-to-horseshit range. The notion= that making someone aware of the designer by forcing struggle in reading m= ight make them aware of the fallibility of the author is intriguing but req= uires a leap more fit for Soren Kierkegaard or Jesse Owens than for folks l= ike me who are more limited in our abductive abilities. I wonder how much "our instincts" are actually instinctive. There also may = have been quite a bit of training for making things "more ugly" during the = New Discourse era although the only reference that comes to mind--the back-= and-forth about Steve Heller's "The Cult of the Ugly"--didn't bring us to a= ny neat conclusions. I have deliberately designed work to appear difficult to read (note "appear= ") in order to slow people down when I feared their assumptions would overp= ower information on the poster. One can also argue that everything we do to= call out particulars (whether in the form of subheads, pull quotes) to mak= e them significant and memorable has the effect of slowing reading thus is,= by some definition, more difficult. > There have been sporadic discussions in this Cafe down the years about wh= at fonts are best for reading. They have all petered out because as someone= always indicates there are so many variables involved -- size, line length= , leading, spacing, colour etc etc -- that it is impossible to make a set o= f rules. Yup. When academic try to cook up information, they are limited by reality.= The reality is that it is very hard to change one variable then make simpl= e universal conclusions based on the effects, especially ones that are usef= ul to practitioners. = If "cooked up by academics" is shorthand for dismissing studies by people w= ithout a broad appreciation of the complexities of typography, then I join = in the dismissal. It should be noted , however, that practitioners tend to,= well, practice. Academics are the only ones we can expect to do the diffic= ult and non-profitable work of seeking generalizable knowledge. On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Caroline Jarrett wrote: > Charles wrote: >> I'm disappointed that no one else has commented on your post! = <snip> > I even started to write a post that ranted about the paper > somewhat. Then I thought I'd better read it :-) I haven't had time to read it. I am suspicious of such studies but much mor= e suspicious of the way conclusions are reported. Thanks for taking the tim= e and giving us a better view of it. = People tend to talk about "reading" and "learning" as singular things in re= porting about studies of effects on reading and/or learning. You have to de= fine both for purposes of such a study. Unfortunately, people want to apply= any findings to every sort of reading and every sort of learning. > 1. I'm not sure I'm really understanding the statistics. <snip interesting comments about statistical significance and distribution = including the following> > I'd say: it's better to avoid some really bad performances, at the expense > of a slightly lower overall performance. = Then Caroline summed up my reaction perfectly: > What I do know, is that this rather thoughtful and somewhat limited > experiment has, as usual, become a blanket assertion in the media that > badly-formatted things are easier to learn from. Which is manifest nonsen= se. Gunnar ---------- Gunnar Swanson Design Office 1901 East 6th Street Greenville NC 27858 USA [email protected] +1 252 258 7006 http://www.gunnarswanson.com ___________________________________________________________________ Use the following address to post a message to all subscribers: = [email protected] To subscribe, unsubscribe or change your options, visit: http://list.InformationDesign.org/mailman/listinfo/infodesign-cafe For all Information Design matters: http://InformationDesign.org Problems? Write to: [email protected] ___________________________________________________________________