Kaina Stoicheia -- Rambling Review of Past Discussions

Jon Awbrey <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.inquiry
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Peircers,

I started collecting an index of links to our previous discussions of Kaina Stoicheia on the following page:

• http://mywikibiz.com/Talk:Kaina_Stoicheia

I will try to keep it updated as I gather more data.

It appears that these discussions arose in connection with still earlier discussions on the nature of symbols.

The following post from 30 September 2005 collects a handy budget of links to those earlier discussions.

NB.  I have ready access only to the messages that I cross-posted to the Arisbe and Inquiry Lists.
I was pretty thorough in those days about cross-posting source materials and my own commentaries
on them, but usually only those discussions in which I participated directly.

Jon Awbrey (Fri Sep 30 12:28:08 CDT 2005)
• http://stderr.org/pipermail/arisbe/2005-September/003011.html
• http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-September/003066.html

> o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
> 
> KS.  Commentary Note 1
> 
> o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o
> 
> Peirce List,
> 
> Here's one for all you Neo-Plots out there.
> Rummaging about the web I find that the phrase
> "Utter Indetermination" appears in the Enneads:
> 
> | Everything the Soul engenders down to this point comes into being shapeless,
> | and takes form by orientation towards its author and supporter:  therefore
> | the thing engendered on the further side can be no image of the Soul,
> | since it is not even alive;  it must be an utter Indetermination.
> |
> | http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/plotenn/enn214.htm
> 
> Pretty scary ...
> 
> As I suspected, we'll probably end up hashing out the whole
> KS/NE paper before we can get a clue what it's talking about.
> Here's a sample of some previous encounters:
> 
> QUAGS.  Questions About Genuine Signs
> 
> 00.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/thread.html#2658
> 00.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-August/thread.html#2926
> 
> 01.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002658.html
> 02.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002659.html
> 03.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002662.html
> 04.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-August/002926.html
> 
> QUAGS.  Questions About Genuine Signs -- Commentary
> 
> 00.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-August/thread.html#2923
> 01.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-August/002923.html
> 02.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-August/002929.html
> 03.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-August/002930.html
> 04.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-August/002931.html
> 05.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-August/002932.html
> 
> QUAGS.  Questions About Genuine Signs -- Discussion
> 
> 00.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/thread.html#2663
> 01.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002663.html
> 02.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002664.html
> 03.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002665.html
> 04.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002666.html
> 05.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002668.html
> 06.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002669.html
> 07.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002670.html
> 
> QUIPS.  Questions Involving Pure Symbols -- Discussion
> 
> 00.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/thread.html#2602
> 00.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-June/thread.html#2766
> 00.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-July/thread.html#2866
> 00.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-August/thread.html#2927
> 24.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-May/002690.html
> 74.  http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2005-August/002927.html
> 
> It looks like this'll be one of those "eternal return" type questions.
> I just hope it won't be one of those "eternal repetition" type issues.
> 
> Jon Awbrey

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