Re: Avalon Components (Re: Our site is too big)

Berin Loritsch wrote:
> From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[email protected]]
> 
> I think that we should now decide where to put the Avalon 
> components, if 
> in Apache Commons or Avalon Components.
> 
> :P  Careful now, we need to protect from feature creep

;-)

Yeah, you are :-P, but we both know how serious this is.

>>I'm mildly in favor for avalon-components, where to put 
>>cornerstone and 
>>excalibur components, and give access to all projects that have a 
>>representative in our PMC (as discussed for outer-avalon 
>>people in the 
>>PMC).
> 
> As long as avalon-components is designed to have a different
> set of CVS privs, then +1.  If we are limiting it to Avalon
> developers, then -1.  We should only use different CVS repositories
> when there are different permissions involved.

Yes, I totally agree.

> I think it is important to separate container/framework and
> components.  I also think that we should use Scratchpad/Components
> like Jakarta Commons.  I.e.: Any Apache committer should have
> Karma for the Scratchpad CVS.  The ones actively maintaining
> the component code shoul be granted karma to Component.
> 
> * That means that *anyone* can do scratchpad stuff.
> * It also means that someone who is maintaining components is not
>   necessarily an Avalon committer.
> * It also means that not just *anyone* can alter the released
>   components--they have to demonstrate the ability to maintain it.
> * Lastly, and most importantly, it means we have to be *really*
>   careful about scope creep.

Very good summary. I agree totally.

> I think that Avalon Components should be *strictly* components.
> No containers, no utility code, just components.  Scratchpad can
> be used as a breeding ground for new ideas--but it does not
> guarantee promotion to Avalon Components or Avalon proper.

Definately. I couldn't have said it better.

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Nicola Ken Barozzi                   [email protected]
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