Re: [PMC:VOTE] PMC Voting Process

Stephen McConnell wrote:
> I can probably be talked into this.  And towards this end - the biggest 
> issue I have
> with the proposed text concerns the introductory statements:
> 
>  > This document details how the Avalon PMC has agreed to handle
>  > voting. Note that in the case of any conflict between this
>  > document and official ASF policy (be it in the form of bylaws,
>  > board resolutions, ASF officer decisions, or something similar),
>  > the official ASF policy is always the policy followed.
> 
> My problem with the above is that (a) the ASF does not have a voting 
> policy, (b) the paragraph simply introduces unnecessary fuzz - the 
> rational fallbacks are (a) the Chair, or (b) the Board.  In discussion 
> to-date, members of the PMC have expressed a reluctance to assign any 
> responsibility to the Chair (even though the Chair is tasked by the 
> Board with the management of the Avalon Project) - but ignoring this 
> anomaly, a fallback to ASF policy is simply saying "if you can find 
> something wrong with Avalon policies then just revent to ASF policies" - 
> and that has two fundamental faults - (a) corresponding ASF policies 
> don't exist, and (b) even if they did, the Avalon policies should take 
> precedence over and above a general ASF policy.

hey Steve,

Avalon ASF Officer == Avalon PMC Chair. The Chair is an officer of the 
Foundation and that's why he needs to overrule -- added responsibility. 
Not because he "chairs" meetings.

(a) -- true.

(b) -- I don't think a PMC can 'overrule' a board resolution or 
something like that, nor can project guidelines. So I disagree here.

> Greg - can you confirm or refute the above?
> Leo - do you think we rework the paragraph in question?

sure! We could even drop it completely and I'd still be quite ok.

cheers,

- Leo