Re: [Avalon5] Avalon <-> Jakarta Commons Logging and Configuration
Sam Ruby <[email protected]>
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Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > Remember though that the fact that commons strongly opposes anything > that has even a remote hint about avalon framework really doesn't help. Just an observation: statements put in this "tone" rarely elicit the desired behavior from the one that you are trying to convince. Here's some facts: commons-logging will support logkit if it is present. I think this qualifies as a remote hint. avalon-logkit can be used without requiring any other portion of the Avalon framework. I believe that this was a significant portion of the original objection. Here's an opinion: Let the past go. Focus on the future. And when trying to convince somebody of something, try to put in terms of how *they* will benefit. - Sam Ruby