Re: [PROPOSAL] lifecycle release

Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
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>>
>> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 14/03/2003 12.10:
>> ...
>>
>>> This project used to be the place where people discussed 
>>> architectural issues about new paradigms that extended object 
>>> orientation.
>>>
>>> What happened to that?
>>
>>
>>
>> Someone decided to reply with smartass comments to technical matters 
>> and discussions.
>
>
> but what if those smartass comments contain gold and not shit as they 
> seem from ego-fragile minds?
>
>>> Since reaching consensus on Avalon 5 was too hard, several of you 
>>> are trying to push your ideas into the framework by working it thru 
>>> your one-man-show container.
>>
>>
>> Example?
>
>
> 1) things are developped in merlin
> 2) things are developped in fortress
> 3) three people work together to merge ideas
> 4) then it's proposed to be made part of framework
>
> Is my perception wrong? 


YES.

I'll have a more comprehensive anser for you shortly.

Cheers, Steve.

>
>
>>> This is the problem and Peter appears to be the only one *really* 
>>> watching over what's going on in this project. Probably because he's 
>>> doing some sneaky moves himself so he's more sensible about them.
>>>
>>> Sure, he uses his usual smartass tone that really used to irritate 
>>> me, but I'm now able to sense his frustruation and I resonate with it.
>>>
>>> One-man-shows have to stop.
>>>
>>> *all* of them.
>>>
>>> Please, and this is for everybody, work to reach consensus or leave.
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>>
>>
>> Are you implying that the lifecycle extension system is a one-man show?
>>
>> I remember extensive discussions and changes about them, all here on 
>> this mailing list. I also remember a joint Fortress-Merlin effort on 
>> them.
>>
>>
>> We have a tentative roadmap we have informally agreed upon. IIUC the 
>> only one that does not acknowledge it is Peter. We have discussed *at 
>> lengths* in the past about getting to a single design, and you know 
>> what happened.
>>
>>
>> We want consensus, yes we do. Here is the roadmap; since you resonate 
>> with Peter, lead us into the discussion (no pun intended) and update 
>> the STATUS file.
>> http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/avalon/STATUS.txt?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup 
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> This has *NOTHING* to do with placing stuff into framework.
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