[jira] [Commented] (JAMES-4171) Submission only server

"Jean Helou (Jira)" <[email protected]> Tue, 10 Feb 2026 20:57:00 +0000 (UTC)
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Jean Helou commented on JAMES-4171:
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I managed to find it after all :
the smtp configuration explicitely lists 
{code}
<handler class="org.apache.james.smtpserver.CoreCmdHandlerLoader"/>
{code}

and this in turn loads 
{code}
AuthRequiredToRelayRcptHook.class.getName(),
{code}

Since I was in the code I wondered why the require only logged users would be better served by adding a required parameter in <auth> over adding a handler in the chain

I assume you intend to add some kind of isAuthRequired or isSubmissionServer property to the SMTPConfiguration interface then propagate that in the org.apache.james.protocols.smtp.SMTPSession so you can check for it in org.apache.james.protocols.smtp.core.AbstractAuthRequiredToRelayRcptHook#doRcpt and force the AUTH_REQUIRED result instead of going letting the hook DECLINE

I'm sure if it's much clearer over adding a dedicated SubmissionServerHook  or SubmissionSeverHandler
all the other security countermeasures seem to be implemented that way 🤷‍♂


> Submission only server
> ----------------------
>
>                 Key: JAMES-4171
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JAMES-4171
>             Project: James Server
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: SMTPServer
>            Reporter: Benoit Tellier
>            Priority: Major
>          Time Spent: 0.5h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
>
> h3. Context 
> I end up having to provide a submission only server for one of my customer.
> Problem: James bundles together the MX and submission role thus always accept email of remote users addressed to local users.
> This unorthodox behaviour is not a problem when combining both roles (though surprising!) however not being able to say "only authenticated users here" prevents implementing the aformentionned use case
> h3. Proposal
> Add auth.required configuration option in SMTP
> If true, then discard unauthenticated senders.
> This shall be the documented + recommended value however for retro-compatibility I propose to keep the legacy value as a default value.



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