Re: Rspamd integration

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Hello Felix

=C2=A0 <listener>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <class>org=2Eapache=2Ejames=2E=
rspamd=2ERspamdListener</class>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <async>true</async>=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 <configuration>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <reportAdded>false</reportAdded>=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 </configuration>=C2=A0 </listener>
Allows to unplug this undesir=
able behaviour: i think it shall be made the default=2E

>=C2=A0The "greyli=
st" and "soft reject" actions are not handled=2E

Correct=2E

greylisting m=
akes no sens in a post queue set up=2E We can only greylist if running in t=
he smtp stack=2E

soft-reject and quarantine actions would be best handled =
as add-header IMO

Do you want to contribute this?--=C2=A0


Best regards,
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Benoit TELLIER

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On Jul 7, =
2026 12:10 PM, from Felix Auringer <felix=2Eauringer@giz=2Eberlin>Hey,

I h=
ave some questions regarding the rspamd integration in James=2E

Currently,=
 when I move a message from my Spam folder to the Inbox, it is marked as ha=
m twice: once because it was moved out of the spam folder in another folder=
 that is not the trash folder and once because the message was appended to =
the Inbox=2E
Is this desired behavior? The MailboxEvents=2EAdded object has=
 a method to check whether the email was delivered (or moved)=2E Additional=
ly checking this would make more sense to me=2E

James distinguishes the fo=
llowing six actions: "no action", "greylist", "add header", "rewrite subjec=
t", "soft reject", "reject"=2E
I tested that James successfully handles the=
 actions "no action", "rewrite subject" and "reject"=2E
For the latter two =
and "add header", James also sets two headers and marks them so that they c=
an be moved to the spam folder if desired=2E
The "greylist" and "soft rejec=
t" actions are not handled=2E

However, Rspamd emits different actions: "di=
scard", "reject", "rewrite subject", "add header", "no action", "soft rejec=
t", "quarantine" (docs=2Erspamd=2Ecom/configuration/metrics#introduction)=
=2E
We would especially be interested in the "soft reject" action to implem=
ent greylisting=2E Additionally, rspamd returns a list of headers it wants =
to remove / add=2E I think honoring those would also be benefitial=2E
Would=
 you be open for contributions on these topics?

Best regards,
Felix
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