Re: RemoteDelivery Gateway not reachable - Only 2 hours retry period - How to increase?

Benoit TELLIER <[email protected]> Tue, 9 Apr 2024 02:28:14 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.jakarta.james.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hello Dominik

Sorry for the late reply I had been very busy lately.

 > I can't really understand the comment above.

Correct the comment actually is not on par with the actual configured 
value, but with the commented value it preceed.

For the 5 day trial period to appl it needs to be uncommented...

IE

<!--  Delivery Schedule based upon RFC 2821, 4.5.4.1  -->
<!--  5 day retry period, with 4 attempts in the first
                  hour, two more within the first 6 hours, and then
                  every 6 hours for the rest of the period. -->
<delayTime>4 * 15 minutes, 2 * 3 hours, 18 * 6 hours</delayTime>
<maxRetries>24</maxRetries>

 > BUT James stopped the retries after almost 2 hours (so almost 120 
tries). James (or ActiveMQ itself??) deleted the E-Mail from the 
ActiveMQ-Mailqueue too, the Mail is lost.

  - 1. What did you used as a delayTime configuration exactly? (I an 
surprised you did 120 relay attemps in the first place).
  - 2. Stop trying delivering emails we cannot deliver sounds legit to me.
        Such mails will end up in bounces processor. Sender would 
receive a DSN stating his mail cannot be received.
        If this is not acceptable to you, you can still add a 
MailRepository inside your bounces processor to collect and persist such 
emails.

Hope this helps,

Best regards,

Benoit TELLIER

On 06/03/2024 21:41, Dominik Katzenmaier wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am BUT James stopped the retries after almost 2 hours (so almost 120 
> tries). James (or ActiveMQ itself??) deleted the E-Mail from the 
> ActiveMQ-Mailqueue too, the Mail is lost. testing Apache James since a 
> few days. I am using the current 3.8.1 Spring-Edition.
> My goal is to use Apache James as an SMTP relay for some of our 
> internal Applications. We don’t need any Users, Domains or Mailboxes 
> on our James, just a simple relay to our external SMTP-Provider. I’ve 
> already successfully configured the RemoteDelivery mailet in the 
> mailetcontainer.xml. James accepts the Emails via SMTP and forwards 
> them to the RemoteDelivery-Gateway.
>
> After this success, I changed the Gateway-Port in my 
> RemoteDelivery-Configuration to a wrong value, to test what happens if 
> the remote gateway is not reachable (to simulate a internet connection 
> failure). I sent an E-Mail to the James-SMTP and waited some hours to 
> see what James did with the E-Mail.
>
> I can see in the log/wrapper.xml that James tried 1x per Minute to 
> send the E-Mail to the RemoteDelivery-Gateway. BUT James stopped the 
> retries after almost 2 hours (so almost 120 tries). James (or ActiveMQ 
> itself??) deleted the E-Mail from the ActiveMQ-Mailqueue too, the Mail 
> is lost.
>
> This is a unacceptable behavior. We need at least retries for 15 
> Hours, more better several days. Where can I configure this?
> I saw in the RemoteDelivery-Section of mailetcontainer.xml the options 
> <delayTime> and <maxRetries>. I didn’t changed the default values, so 
> they are:
>
> <!--  Delivery Schedule based upon RFC 2821, 4.5.4.1  -->
> <!--  5 day retry period, with 4 attempts in the first
>                  hour, two more within the first 6 hours, and then
>                  every 6 hours for the rest of the period.
>           <delayTime>4 * 15 minutes, 2 * 3 hours, 18 * 6 
> hours</delayTime>
>            -->
> <delayTime>5000, 100000, 500000</delayTime>
> <maxRetries>3</maxRetries>
>
> I can't really understand the comment above.
> “5 day retry period, with with 4 attempts in the first hour, two more 
> within the first 6 hours, and then every 6 hours for the rest of the 
> period.” ???
> Sounds Good! I would take that :D . But in my test I see only a 2 
> hours retry period, with 1 try per minute.
>
> Does anyone have an idea how I can increase the retry period?
>
> Thank you for this great open source project and your support!
>
> Best Regards
> Dominik Katzenmaier
>
>
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