Re: [poll] Use Commit Then Review (CTR)

Gary Gregory <[email protected]>
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2025, 13:43 Matt SIcker <[email protected]> wrote:

> I’m in favor of whatever process makes this project enjoyable to
> contribute to again. In the past, we embraced the Apache Way of a
> “do-ocracy” where people just sort of work on what they want to work on,
> and things work out in the end because this philosophy embraces community
> over code. Projects that demand perfect code end up dead once the
> gatekeeper stops caring about the project (see for example qmail).
>

Down with the fun! It feels to me like we have process _over_ community,
not community over code.

Gary


> > On Oct 27, 2025, at 6:25 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > This is a poll to gauge the waters for CTR.
> >
> > There is way too much Byzantine bureaucracy in this project.
> >
> > It's constantly throwing spans in the wheels of progress:
> >
> > A PR for adding one getter method turns into a request for porting a
> > code base from IO to NIO, see
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/l23k5n6spfgs05ds06t4hpgmmssqpzvd
> >
> > Gary
>
>
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