Re: I do not think this RTC workflow is appropriate for us

Matt Sicker <[email protected]> Tue, 20 Jan 2026 12:17:56 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.comp.jakarta.log4j.devel
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The image wasn’t uploaded to the list, so I can’t see it.

Anyways, I can see that this conversation is going nowhere. I’m convinced that this PMC has become property of Volkan and Piotr.

> On Jan 15, 2026, at 2:01 AM, Volkan Yazıcı <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Matt, the following is your `apache/logging-log4j2` commit activity <https://github.com/apache/logging-log4j2/graphs/contributors> I copied from GitHub. 
> Given this graph, and the fact that RTC was introduced on 2025-04-10, are you telling me that your inactivity since late 2017 was due to RTC?
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2026 at 9:42 PM Matt Sicker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> I should also note the below quote:
>> 
>> > On Jan 12, 2026, at 2:51 AM, Volkan Yazıcı <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > AFAICT, the bottom line is, people who are actively contributing have no
>> > problem with RTC; on the contrary, they support it wholeheartedly. On the
>> > other hand, there is this other group of maintainers, whom contribute
>> > seldom, have PRs pending for their attention to reviews,  (almost) never
>> > help with external PRs/Issues, they just want to push two lines of code for
>> > their weekend projects, and return back to their $dayjobs.
>> 
>> Of course it would look like that. The ones who agree to the policy work with it, and those who disagree have stepped back. That begs the question.