Re: [DISCUSS] Fix for #12646 — moving project-loca l-repo out of target/

Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>
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I fail to see why we fight target/ whereas temp files should belong to a
single temp location ie target/ no?
if we want clean plugin to ignore some files we can make it, even by
default (potentially using a target/myfile.clean.ignore kind of marcher or
alike) - dotnet does something like that, to be transparent I hate that a
clean leaks temp files and doesn't get back to a "clean" state of the
project but you'll say that these days we don't need clean plugin anymore
and git -rf clean . is enough.
but overall it sounds like we shout ourselves to try to not respect what we
put in place (for good), no?

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Le mar. 4 août 2026 à 15:40, Delany <[email protected]> a écrit :

> Maybe "resume" should be removed? Incremental builds, and build cache make
> up for loss of efficiency.
>
> It doesn't really have a place nowadays. The IDE and CI don't use it, and
> devs often just push "up + enter" rather than extra typing. Removing it
> results in atomic builds and guarantees the resulting artifacts aren't
> dirty. That's an improvement. Honestly I'd just remove it.
>
> Delany
>
> On Tue, 4 Aug 2026, 14:08 Tamás Cservenák, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Howdy,
> >
> > I would just reflect on a funny fact (for me at least):
> >
> > This whole problem (being solved on this thread), stems from one
> > single thing: the unsolicited install that Maven 4 does (cf this to
> > user invoking `mvn install` explicitly).
> >
> > Moreover, this unsolicited install happens, for one thing, to make the
> > resume `-r` feature work.
> >
> > And the true irony is, that this resume feature is backed and
> > advertised by folks, whose mantra is "do not `mvn install` but `mvn
> > verify`" (as install "pollutes' your local repository", whatever that
> > means).
> >
> > That mantra can be now extended with "... as Maven 4 will install it,
> > even if you did not ask for it" :)
> >
> > The more I think about it, the more I find this funny.
> >
> > Thanks
> > T
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Aug 2026 at 14:56, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I like the .mvn/target/project-local-repo which solves the problem,
> > > and also provides a good location where plugins could move some
> > > temporary data files without being disturbed by the clean plugin.  I'm
> > > thinking about the flatten plugin, the release plugin, and probably
> > > more.
> > >
> > > Le lun. 3 août 2026 à 16:47, Slawomir Jaranowski
> > > <[email protected]> a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 3 Aug 2026 at 14:09, Guillaume Nodet <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd like to get your input on the fix for GH-12646 — a race
> > condition with
> > > > > project-local-repo during parallel clean install builds.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem
> > > > >
> > > > > When the root pom.xml has a parent that is also part of the reactor
> > (e.g. a
> > > > > super-pom), MultiThreadedBuilder schedules the parent first, then
> > runs the
> > > > > root project and child modules concurrently. Since clean and
> install
> > are
> > > > > placed into the same TaskSegment, there is no barrier between them
> —
> > the
> > > > > root project's maven-clean-plugin can delete target/ while sibling
> > modules
> > > > > are concurrently writing artifacts into target/project-local-repo,
> > causing
> > > > > the build to fail.
> > > > >
> > > > > Approaches considered
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Lock-based synchronization (ReentrantReadWriteLock in
> > ReactorReader)
> > > > >
> > > > > Acquire a write lock when the project owning target/ enters its
> clean
> > > > > phase, and a read lock when installing artifacts. This prevents the
> > crash
> > > > > (concurrent access) but does not guarantee ordering — a module
> could
> > > > > install artifacts before the root's clean starts, only to have them
> > wiped.
> > > > > It also adds complexity to ReactorReader for what is fundamentally
> an
> > > > > architectural problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Move project-local-repo to ~/.m2/ (user home)
> > > > >
> > > > > E.g. ~/.m2/local-repository/${projectName}_${hash}, similar to how
> > IntelliJ
> > > > > stores project caches. This avoids both the race and the git
> > concern, but:
> > > > > - Hard links (already used by ReactorReader) cannot cross
> filesystem
> > > > > boundaries — if ~/.m2/ is on a different volume, every artifact
> > becomes a
> > > > > full copy
> > > > > - Stale directories accumulate when projects are deleted/moved,
> with
> > no
> > > > > cleanup mechanism
> > > > > - CI containers often share ~/.m2/ across builds, causing unwanted
> > > > > accumulation
> > > > > - Loses project locality (harder to inspect/debug)
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Move project-local-repo to .mvn/project-local-repo (chosen)
> > > > >
> > > > > Move the directory from target/project-local-repo to
> > > > > .mvn/project-local-repo. Since maven-clean-plugin only deletes
> > target/, the
> > > > > race becomes structurally impossible. ReactorReader fully owns the
> > > > > lifecycle — per-GAV cleanup when a project enters its clean phase,
> > install
> > > > > on project success. The existing hard-link optimization continues
> to
> > work
> > > > > since both directories are on the same filesystem.
> > > > >
> > > > > The trade-off is that .mvn/project-local-repo needs to be
> > gitignored. This
> > > > > follows the Gradle convention where .gradle/ at the project root is
> > > > > universally in .gitignore templates. Maven could also document this
> > > > > convention or consider auto-appending the entry.
> > > > >
> > > > > The fix itself is minimal — the core change is a single line in
> > > > > getProjectLocalRepo(), and the rest is removing the lock
> > infrastructure
> > > > > (net -40 lines).
> > > > >
> > > > > 4. Keep in target/ but use maven-clean-plugin fast mode
> > > > >
> > > > > The fast clean option (maven.clean.fast=true, since plugin 3.2)
> > atomically
> > > > > renames target/ instead of recursively deleting it. This would
> > likely avoid
> > > > > the race, but it's opt-in and not the default — users hitting the
> > bug would
> > > > > need to know about it.
> > > > >
> > > > > FWIW, a PR has been raised on m-clean-p master branch (4.x) to
> > refactor the
> > > > > fast cleaner (fixing problems) and make it the default.
> > > > >
> > > > > Open questions
> > > > >
> > > > > - Is .mvn/ the right location, or should we consider a different
> > > > > project-root directory?
> > > >
> > > > maybe .mvn/target/project-local-repo
> > > > it should be ignored by git
> > > >
> > > > > - Should Maven auto-add .mvn/project-local-repo to .gitignore, or
> > document
> > > > > it as a convention?
> > > > > - Are there other considerations I'm missing?
> > > > >
> > > > > PR: https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/12650
> > > > > Issue: https://github.com/apache/maven/issues/12646
> > > > >
> > > > > Looking forward to your thoughts.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Cheers
> > > > > Guillaume Nodet
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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