Re: [mevenide-user] Why mevenide2 for netbeans?

Milos Kleint wrote:
>
> On Dec 18, 2007 3:20 PM, matt weiss <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Hey all,
>
>     Here's an opportunity to jump on someone for not understanding or
>     knowing.  In any case my question is why?  Why was mevenide
>     started?  My experience with mevenide has been rather poor
>     compared to my experience with the intellij plugin for maven.  As
>     many of you are aware, the intellij plugin works in a different
>     fashion than the mevenide2 plugin.  A command is issued for your
>     root pom file and all the intellij project files are generated. 
>     Then one can open up intellij and develop in a familiar fashion
>     without regards to dependencies or even the fact that maven is
>     used because the maven in this scenario is transparent.  My
>     experience has been rather seemless with this approach.
>
>     My experience with the mevenide2 plugin has been much different. 
>     The mevenide2 plugin is a plugin for Netbeans rather than a plugin
>     for maven2.  Thus Netbeans treats the pom.xml files as project
>     files and essentially issues maven goals to maven the appropriate
>     projects when actions are performed such as build, debug, etc. 
>     This means that prerequisite goals have to be ran before your
>     desired goal is ran.
>
>     My biggest point of disappointment, is how long it takes to just
>     debug and run a project.  Let's  say I make a change to my
>     project.  In order for me to debug my project all the prerequisite
>     goals must be ran before I can debug my project, like the jar
>     goal.  In my uninformed and biased opinion, I don't have any
>     interest in making artifacts when I want to debug.  I merely want
>     all my java files compiled to classes and I want them loaded into
>     the class path so I can debug.  Furthermore, I desire only
>     modified java files to be recompiled. mevenide2 does all java
>     files all the time and creates the jar files wasting my time. 
>
>
> Just out of interest, how long does take before the project starts?
>
> there space for improvements on multiple levels.
> 1. mevenide code
> 2. maven itself
> 3. finetuning your project to do less and faster when invoked from the 
> IDE. (eg. by skipping test compilation/execution on Run action, or by 
> making sure the network is not touched by the build)
> 4. on windows, disabling virus scanning helps a lot of people I heard.
>
> feel free to contribute any improvements you find that make the 
> Run/Debug invokation faster.
>  
>
>

I don't have time to contribute, but here were my experiences in trying 
to debug a web service using Mavenide on NetBeans:
http://www.jroller.com/gmazza/date/20071216. 

Mavenide just seems to need a little bit more work right now.

Regards,
Glen



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