RE: [aspectwerkz-user] AOP advice execution sequence

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Hi Alex,

Below is the message which my manager had posted and I guess since he =
was not a registered user, the question did not get posted.

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Hi Alexandre,=20

I was following your mail chain and would like to put in a word of =
thanks about the guidance provided by you to our team.

A related two cents from me: I always felt AOP is a technology-concept =
implemented in specific ways for relevant frameworks. Now it is a =
different question all-together that a particular AOP-framework may not =
have features to support parallel processing but inherently AOP should =
be used for infrastructural capabilities which can be spawned via =
cross-cuts - I guess that is the core strength of AOP than just using it =
so that the piece gets executed in the same code-path.

Thanks,=20
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Chief Architect - Wipro Technologies - EBiz=20
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Thanks and Regards,
Lalithamba.

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From: Alexandre Vasseur [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu 22-Nov-07 2:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [aspectwerkz-user] AOP advice execution sequence



yes you can code for that, but the AOP framework won't create any thread =
for you
those papers are about use case, and not about framework features


On 11/21/07, akhilesh laddha <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Alex,
> I have some doubt.  Because, attached document section 5, 6 and 7 =
describes
> that AOP advice run in parallel with the application code.
>
> In this url
> http://www.sdtimes.com/editorial/opinion-20020101-01.html
> article explain in the same line.
>
> Still, my understanding is not clarified, because your reply defer =
from the
> article.
>
> Is that all Java AOP framework inherently not support parallel =
execution of
> advice with the application code?
>
> Please let me know.
>
> Thanks
> Akhilesh
> Alexandre Vasseur <[email protected]> wrote:
> no it runs in the same code path - as if you wrote it
> this said it is easy to have your advice produce an async task that
> will be consumed by some thread queue if you want
> it is all up to you
> Alex
>
> On Nov 20, 2007 6:00 PM, akhilesh laddha wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I would like to get clarify my self about AOP advice execution =
sequence
> > along with the application code. Does AOP advice execute in parallel =
with
> > application methods for that cross cut defines?
> >
> > For example
> > Application method - foo() (for cross cut define)
> > Takes execution time T1
> > Advice - fooAdvice() takes t1 time
> >
> > If AOP advice runs sequentially with application code then =
additional
> > performance hit because of advice code execution.
> >
> > Total time will be - T1 +t1
> >
> > From my understanding it runs in parallel therefore it takes time =
equal to
> > whichever is higher for ex - T1
> >
> > Please correct my understanding
> >
> > Thanks
> > Akhilesh
> >
> >
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