Re: The sad state of Java scripting

I feel your pain.   I too am frustrated with the state of affairs. 
Fortunately for me, the bugs in BeanShell happen to be ones I can work 
around, but I  the same experience ...  A great application which is "not 
quite there" and no support.
Is there a way we as a community can address this ?  Clearly the author has 
abandoned BeanShell, but can we pick up where he left off ?
The source is entirely public to my knowlege, but I have not read the 
license in detail.   Can we officially "open source" this project ?
What would that take?  Maybe it is already ? I wouldnt mind digging in and 
fixing a few bugs.   If we could get a few people to do this we could get it 
back on track again.   We'd probably have to re-host it and possibly 
ren-name it since I havent seen even a single response from the current 
sourceforge maintainers whoever they are.   Maybe even the act of support by 
the community might breath new life back into the originators ?
We can sit around and complain all we like or we can take things into our 
own hands.
Anyone up for this ?

I really dont want to drop BeanShell, I've already integrated it into my 
application and its a fantastic solution to what I need.
Unfortuantely it has no future as far as I can tell and at some point I will 
be forced to drop it.

-David Lee
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David A. Lee
[email protected]
http://www.calldei.com





>
> This post is an expression of frustration.  There ought to be a decent way 
> to
> script Java by now, but there isn't.
>
> I have been using BeanShell for years and I kept hoping that the author
> would show some enthusiasm and start fixing bugs.  This hasn't happened.
> BeanShell is an unsupported product with close to 200 outstanding bugs.
> When users ask about BeanShell's status, they are ignored.
>
> http://www.nabble.com/Question-regarding-Beanshell%27s-status-tf3372306.html
>
> BeanShell should not be depended on in a serious application.
>
> Next I tried Pnuts.  This is an excellent piece of software that seems
> bug-free.  But since I do not want to be stuck with another unsupported
> product, I filed bugs on some minor web site and documentation issues.
> There has been no response to this.  Next I emailed the mailing list to 
> ask
> about the status of the project, and again, no response.  No matter how 
> good
> Pnuts is, I can't use an unsupported product.
>
> Next came Groovy.  I was reluctant to try this because big languages 
> aren't
> my style.  I like simplicity.  My fears have proven correct so far because 
> I
> can't get simple things to work.  To start with, all I want to do is to 
> run
> a simple script by invoking Java directly, meaning without shell scripts.
> This is trivial to do with BeanShell or Pnuts, but apparently not with
> Groovy.
>
> http://www.nabble.com/running-Groovy-from-java-command-line-tf3660571.html
>
> Finding how to do simple things from the web site is difficult because the
> site stresses all the groovy new features, which don't interest me.
>
> As of now, Groovy is the only viable candidate, if I can get it to work. 
> If
> anyone has any other suggestions for me, I would be glad to try them.
>
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