Re: Hacking BeanShell with JavaCC

CODE WAR?  Ohh it's on baby!

Some of us REALLY like the way Groovy does operator overloading.
Programming by convention is the next big thing.  The Groovy way lets
you plug in pure java classes and still take advantage of operator
overloading.  Groovy has all the best features of Java, BeanShell, Ruby,
and Python; while doing an excellent job of leveraging the full power of
Java.  As for Python, I can't stand that the syntax is tab/whitespace
dependent.  BeanShell is good if you just want a small embeddable
interpreter, but it stopped evolving somewhere around Java 1.3/1.4.

In my opinion, Groovy is by far the best Java based scripting language
out there.  It's only weakness, and its still significant, is in the
embedded shell.  But those problems have been fixed for the interpreted
shell, and should soon be fixed for embedded users.

Scott...


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From: fschmidt [mailto:[email protected]] 
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Subject: Re: [Beanshell-dev] Hacking BeanShell with JavaCC


Not to start a language war, but Groovy is the epitome of bad design.  I
just looked at their operator overloading page:

http://groovy.codehaus.org/Operator+Overloading

and I see that they actually change the meaning of standard Java
operators like this:

a == b 	 a.equals(b) or a.compareTo(b) == 0
a != b 	! a.equals(b)

If you want interpreted Java, stick with BeanShell or Pnuts.  If you
want a good interpreted language other than Java, use Python or Ruby.
There is no reason to ever use Groovy.

And by the way, I hear that Python has a very nice MATLAB clone.



Stevenson, Scott W wrote:
> 
> If you've never scene Groovy, check it out at
http://groovy.codehaus.org/.
> It's a Java based scripting language that is a lot more "MATLAB like"
> then BeanShell.  It supports operator overloading and lots of other 
> features to make it a more suitable base for MATLAB.
> 

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