Re: BeanShell alternatives (was Re: Status ofprojectand adding 1.5 generics)

"Toomas Römer" <[email protected]> Fri, 26 Dec 2008 04:21:12 +0200
Newsgroups gmane.comp.java.beanshell.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi

>From the thread we can see that we do have one active maintainer,
fschmidt of bsh2. Maybe we could agree on general guidelines for new
features, work out a roadmap, think about release engineering to
provide the necessary QA and hop onto the BSH2 boat?

Toomas



On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 3:01 AM, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
> You echo what everyone (most?) have been saying: there is a need for a
> maintainer that has the time, experience and interest in releasing
> stable builds.  I have yet, though, to see anyone stepping up to the
> plate.
>
>
> Toomas R=F6mer writes:
>  > Hi
>  >
>  > I'm very glad that such a discussion is taking place. The company I
>  > work for also uses BSH in its products for scripting support and we're
>  > not very happy that we cannot commit patches nor get patches for
>  > current bugs.
>  >
>  > >From the thread I can say that the fschmidt bsh2 fork is a bit too
>  > scary for us. The approach of everybody getting their stuff in is too
>  > experimental. We're looking for more of a maintenance mode with
>  > bugfixes and only features that would have Java compatibility in mind.
>  > We're also interested in compiling for Java 1.4 as long as possible. I
>  > guess our wishes are the closest to David's ones.
>  >
>  > So if there would be a stability branch we could definitely support it
>  > with bug fixes, testing, code-reviews etc.
>  >
>  > Toomas
>  >
>  > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:42 PM, David A. Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>  > >> I've been monitoring this list for a long time, and the lack of
>  > >> traffic is pretty damning. It seems like it will take a lot of work
>  > >> and evangelizing to get sufficient interest to keep BeanShell going
>  > >> for the long run.
>  > >
>  > > I for one would volunteer some time maintaining a branch who's prima=
ry goal
>  > > was stability,
>  > > key bug fixes, limiting arbitrary changes, and fully QA testing and =
who had
>  > > some kind of shared vision along that goal.
>  > >
>  > > Branches who's intent is adding lots of features and open to anyone
>  > > submitting code are intresting in thieir own way, but not the branch=
 I'd be
>  > > willing to invest much effort in besides passivly watching and seein=
g where
>  > > it goes.
>  > >
>  > > But yes ... this has come up before and hasnt gone anwhere yet.
>  > >
>  > > My "New Years Wish" is that Pat would officially write and say he's =
done
>  > > with BeanShell.   He's done a fantastic job, and given the "communit=
y" a
>  > > great present.  But as long as he doesnt officially come out and say=
 he's
>  > > done,
>  > > I really doubt there'll be enough initiative for anyone or group to =
take it
>  > > over.  Even better if he would "officially" apoint a group to take i=
t over.
>  > > I'm sure we'd find enough volunteers that to take on that task if it=
 was
>  > > sactioned.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > -David
>  > >
>  > > -----------------------------------------------------------
>  > > David A. Lee
>  > > [email protected]
>  > > http://www.calldei.com
>  > >
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