Re: BeanShell alternatives (was Re: Status ofprojectand adding 1.5 generics)

Hi

I did find reference to not directly wanting to do releases but he is
the project owner. We can always distribute these positions among us.

My email thread might also be incomplete.

Toomas



On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 4:44 AM, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
> He maintains that he's not the maintainer of beanshell2.  He's written
> that he doesn't want to be the maintainer and prefers a more extreme
> kind of lassie fair to the project.
>
>
> Toomas R=F6mer writes:
>  > Hi
>  >
>  > From the thread we can see that we do have one active maintainer,
>  > fschmidt of bsh2. Maybe we could agree on general guidelines for new
>  > features, work out a roadmap, think about release engineering to
>  > provide the necessary QA and hop onto the BSH2 boat?
>  >
>  > Toomas
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 3:01 AM, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
>  > > You echo what everyone (most?) have been saying: there is a need for=
 a
>  > > maintainer that has the time, experience and interest in releasing
>  > > stable builds.  I have yet, though, to see anyone stepping up to the
>  > > plate.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > Toomas R=F6mer writes:
>  > >  > Hi
>  > >  >
>  > >  > I'm very glad that such a discussion is taking place. The company=
 I
>  > >  > work for also uses BSH in its products for scripting support and =
we're
>  > >  > not very happy that we cannot commit patches nor get patches for
>  > >  > current bugs.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > >From the thread I can say that the fschmidt bsh2 fork is a bit t=
oo
>  > >  > scary for us. The approach of everybody getting their stuff in is=
 too
>  > >  > experimental. We're looking for more of a maintenance mode with
>  > >  > bugfixes and only features that would have Java compatibility in =
mind.
>  > >  > We're also interested in compiling for Java 1.4 as long as possib=
le. I
>  > >  > guess our wishes are the closest to David's ones.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > So if there would be a stability branch we could definitely suppo=
rt it
>  > >  > with bug fixes, testing, code-reviews etc.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Toomas
>  > >  >
>  > >  > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:42 PM, David A. Lee <[email protected]> =
wrote:
>  > >  > >> I've been monitoring this list for a long time, and the lack of
>  > >  > >> traffic is pretty damning. It seems like it will take a lot of=
 work
>  > >  > >> and evangelizing to get sufficient interest to keep BeanShell =
going
>  > >  > >> for the long run.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > I for one would volunteer some time maintaining a branch who's =
primary goal
>  > >  > > was stability,
>  > >  > > key bug fixes, limiting arbitrary changes, and fully QA testing=
 and who had
>  > >  > > some kind of shared vision along that goal.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > Branches who's intent is adding lots of features and open to an=
yone
>  > >  > > submitting code are intresting in thieir own way, but not the b=
ranch I'd be
>  > >  > > willing to invest much effort in besides passivly watching and =
seeing where
>  > >  > > it goes.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > But yes ... this has come up before and hasnt gone anwhere yet.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > My "New Years Wish" is that Pat would officially write and say =
he's done
>  > >  > > with BeanShell.   He's done a fantastic job, and given the "com=
munity" a
>  > >  > > great present.  But as long as he doesnt officially come out an=
d say he's
>  > >  > > done,
>  > >  > > I really doubt there'll be enough initiative for anyone or grou=
p to take it
>  > >  > > over.  Even better if he would "officially" apoint a group to t=
ake it over.
>  > >  > > I'm sure we'd find enough volunteers that to take on that task =
if it was
>  > >  > > sactioned.
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > -David
>  > >  > >
>  > >  > > -----------------------------------------------------------
>  > >  > > David A. Lee
>  > >  > > [email protected]
>  > >  > > http://www.calldei.com
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