Re: M2?

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Thanks Nikita!

I'm trying to put together the release vote email and think I have an issue
with the Maven repo:

https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachecayenne-1062/

Anyone know what step I missed there, etc? I got the name
(orgapachecayenne-1062) from
https://repository.apache.org/#stagingRepositories which I think came from
the "mvn release:prepare" or "mvn release:perform" step.

Thanks,
mrg


On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 4:12=E2=80=AFPM Nikita Timofeev <ntimofeev@objectst=
yle.com>
wrote:

> Perfect! Windows build is there now too.
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 11:40=E2=80=AFPM Michael Gentry <blacknext@gmail.=
com>
> wrote:
>
> > ~/Projects/cayenne-svn/5.0-M2 > svn commit --username mgentry -m "Added
> > 5.0-M2 SRC files."
> > Adding  (bin)  cayenne-5.0-M2-src.tar.gz
> > Adding         cayenne-5.0-M2-src.tar.gz.asc
> > Adding         cayenne-5.0-M2-src.tar.gz.sha512
> > Transmitting file data ...done
> > Committing transaction...
> > Committed revision 85180.
> >
> > Added.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 3:20=E2=80=AFPM Nikita Timofeev <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Could you also commit the `src` package there? I think it's better if=
 I
> > > build using it.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 11:12=E2=80=AFPM Michael Gentry <blacknext@gm=
ail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's what I thought, but wanted to check first.
> > > >
> > > >  ~/Projects/cayenne-svn > svn commit --username mgentry -m "Added
> > 5.0-M2
> > > > Generic and Mac artifacts, plus updated KEYS."
> > > > Authentication realm: <https://dist.apache.org:443> ASF Committers
> > > > Password for 'mgentry': ***************
> > > >
> > > > Adding         5.0-M2
> > > > Adding  (bin)  5.0-M2/cayenne-5.0-M2-macosx.dmg
> > > > Adding         5.0-M2/cayenne-5.0-M2-macosx.dmg.asc
> > > > Adding         5.0-M2/cayenne-5.0-M2-macosx.dmg.sha512
> > > > Adding  (bin)  5.0-M2/cayenne-5.0-M2.tar.gz
> > > > Adding         5.0-M2/cayenne-5.0-M2.tar.gz.asc
> > > > Adding         5.0-M2/cayenne-5.0-M2.tar.gz.sha512
> > > > Adding         KEYS
> > > > Transmitting file data .......done
> > > > Committing transaction...
> > > > Committed revision 85177.
> > > >
> > > > Should be signed and committed now.
> > > >
> > > > Nikita, please help with Windows. :-)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > mrg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 2:28=E2=80=AFPM Andrus Adamchik <aadamchik@=
gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah, it is supposed to be empty, as the last voted release moves
> to
> > > > > /release for publishing:
> > > > >
> > > > > svn mv https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cayenne/X.X \
> > > > >        https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/cayenne/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Jun 11, 2026, at 2:21=E2=80=AFPM, Michael Gentry <blacknext@=
gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK, I'm a little confused by the SVN steps. Am I supposed to
> > checkout
> > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/cayenne/ and commit the
> > > > artifacts
> > > > > > there? I did that and nothing is currently there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > mrg
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 1:13=E2=80=AFPM Michael Gentry <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Yeah, I'm officially giving up on Windows for now. Tried many
> > times
> > > > and
> > > > > >> never got a clean build on it. I'm switching back to Mac and
> Linux
> > > > > builds
> > > > > >> now. Hopefully that will be done within a few hours.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 7:57=E2=80=AFAM Andrus Adamchik <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hey Mike, so what do you think of Nikita's idea of publishing
> the
> > > > > release
> > > > > >>> sans Windows, and he'd do the Windows piece?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> On Jun 9, 2026, at 8:06=E2=80=AFAM, Nikita Timofeev <
> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> For the Gradle build I can only think that the Gradle folder
> is
> > > > > missing
> > > > > >>>> from the source folder. That's the limitation of the Apache
> > > process,
> > > > > you
> > > > > >>>> need to remember to copy it every time you grab a clean
> sources
> > > > > >>> assembly.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Alternatively, I could try to do Win build on my side. If yo=
u
> > > commit
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>> sources package with the signatures to the SVN, I can build
> the
> > > > > Windows
> > > > > >>>> assembly on my machine and commit it back with my signatures=
.
> I
> > > > think
> > > > > it
> > > > > >>>> should be ok to have different signatures in one release as
> long
> > > as
> > > > > they
> > > > > >>>> are in the KEYS file.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2026 at 9:24=E2=80=AFPM Andrus Adamchik <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Interesting... I haven't tried an "src" build. But what I d=
id
> > > > worked
> > > > > >>> for
> > > > > >>>>> me on an Azure VM:
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> 1. cmd instead of PowerShell
> > > > > >>>>> 2. git clone [repo] with no extra args like --depth
> > > > > >>>>> 3. mvn clean verify -P assembly,windows
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> All the differences with your recipe are cosmetic though an=
d
> > > should
> > > > > not
> > > > > >>>>> affect Gradle. So not sure.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Andrus
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On Jun 8, 2026, at 12:48=E2=80=AFPM, Michael Gentry <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> OK, installed Win10 in VB (a soul-crushing experience) alo=
ng
> > > with
> > > > > >>> Java,
> > > > > >>>>>> Git, Maven, etc...
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> I was able to clone the repo (using PowerShell):
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> PS > git clone
> > https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/cayenne.git
> > > > > >>> --branch
> > > > > >>>>>> "cayenne-parent-5.0-M2" --depth 1 cayenne-m2-rel
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> This repeatedly fails, though:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> PS > mvn clean install -P"assembly,src"
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Task :pluginUnderTestMetadata
> > > > > >>>>>>> Task :processTestResources
> > > > > >>>>>>> Task :testClasses
> > > > > >>>>>>> Task :test
> > > > > >>>>>> OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM warning: Sharing is only supporte=
d
> > for
> > > > boot
> > > > > >>>>> loader
> > > > > >>>>>> classes because bootstrap classpath has been appended
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Task :test
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> DbImportIT > simpleDbTaskSuccess() FAILED
> > > > > >>>>>>  org.junit.platform.commons.JUnitException at
> > > ArrayList.java:1596
> > > > > >>>>>>      Caused by: java.io.IOException at ForEachOps.java:184
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> DbImportIT > withProjectTaskSuccess() FAILED
> > > > > >>>>>>  org.junit.platform.commons.JUnitException at
> > > ArrayList.java:1596
> > > > > >>>>>>      Caused by: java.io.IOException at ForEachOps.java:184
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> DbImportIT > excludeRelDbTaskSuccess() FAILED
> > > > > >>>>>>  org.junit.platform.commons.JUnitException at
> > > ArrayList.java:1596
> > > > > >>>>>>      Caused by: java.io.IOException at ForEachOps.java:184
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> GradlePluginIT > gradleVersionsCompatibility() FAILED
> > > > > >>>>>>  org.junit.platform.commons.JUnitException at
> > > ArrayList.java:1596
> > > > > >>>>>>      Caused by: java.io.IOException at ForEachOps.java:184
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> 36 tests completed, 4 failed
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> Task :test FAILED
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Any ideas what might cause the build to fail in the Gradle
> > > Plugin
> > > > > >>> tests?
> > > > > >>>>>> JDK 21 and latest Maven 3.9.
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>>> mrg
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2026 at 8:46=E2=80=AFPM Michael Gentry <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> I found an old Win10 ISO. I'll try installing in
> VirtualBox,
> > > etc.
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2026 at 11:14=E2=80=AFAM Andrus Adamchik <
> > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Yeah, I think this one actually requires Windows. In the
> > past
> > > > I'd
> > > > > >>> run
> > > > > >>>>> it
> > > > > >>>>>>>> locally via VirtualBox. These days, I simply go to Azure
> and
> > > > spin
> > > > > >>> up a
> > > > > >>>>> VM
> > > > > >>>>>>>> for a few hours.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> Andrus
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2026, at 5:14=E2=80=AFPM, Michael Gentry <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> BTW...
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> How do I do this step?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> # You will need to do this on Windows
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> mvn clean package -Passembly,windows -DskipTests
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> I've only got Mac and Linux.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2026 at 4:37=E2=80=AFPM Michael Gentry <
> > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> OK, more updates...
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> In my ~/.m2/settings.xml file, I changed:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> <id>apache.releases.https</id>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> to:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> <id>apache-releases</id>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> That allowed the mvn release:perform step to run and
> > > > complete. I
> > > > > >>> had
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> gotten apache.releases.https from one of the Apache
> pages
> > on
> > > > > >>> setting
> > > > > >>>>>>>> up GPG
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> and my settings file.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Starting the rest now...
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2026 at 9:20=E2=80=AFPM Michael Gentry =
<
> > > > > >>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I switched to using the ASF Git and made it further,
> but
> > am
> > > > > >>> having
> > > > > >>>>>>>> issues
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> publishing the artifacts (public key) using mvn
> > > > release:perform
> > > > > >>>>>>>> step...
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to get that ironed out Thursday...
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> mrg
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2026 at 8:16=E2=80=AFAM Nikita Timofee=
v <
> > > > > >>>>>>>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> You can check if your GitHub ID is linked with your
> > Apache
> > > > > >>> account
> > > > > >>>>>>>> in the
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://gitbox.apache.org self service. Other than
> > that I
> > > > > don't
> > > > > >>>>> have
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> many
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> ideas about what to check.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> If your access continues to fail, I can proceed with
> > this
> > > > > >>> release
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2026 at 10:11=E2=80=AFPM Michael Gent=
ry <
> > > > > >>>>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm still getting errors about not having access to
> > > > > >>> apache/cayenne
> > > > > >>>>>>>> on
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub. Should I try using the ASF Git repo? Or
> should
> > > > > someone
> > > > > >>>>> else
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> take
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> over until I can resolve my environmental issues?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 9:09=E2=80=AFPM Michael Gent=
ry <
> > > > > >>>>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the tips, Nikita.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm going to revert the changes and try again. I'l=
l
> > > update
> > > > > >>> with
> > > > > >>>>> how
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> far I
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> get.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 8:20=E2=80=AFAM Nikita Timo=
feev <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The instructions should be good overall, I use th=
em
> > > > > verbatim
> > > > > >>>>> every
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> time.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's definitely missing are the common problems
> and
> > > how
> > > > > to
> > > > > >>> fix
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> them.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usually I go with `mvn release:rollback` first.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If `rollback` can't run (likely because there is =
no
> > > > release
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> descriptor), I
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manually revert the commit performed by the
> `prepare`
> > > > > stage.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then check if the tags are still present and remo=
ve
> > > both
> > > > > >>> local
> > > > > >>>>> and
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> remote
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if they exist.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once everything is reverted I start
> `release:prepare`
> > > > > again.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If `release:perform` fails too, I try to repeat i=
t
> > > first,
> > > > > >>>>>>>> sometimes
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> it's
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just a nexus timeout or something.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the error persists I just repeat the same
> rollback
> > > ->
> > > > > >>> prepare
> > > > > >>>>>>>> ->
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perform
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cycle.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps. Tell me if you need some more in=
fo
> > or
> > > > > >>> support.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 12:02=E2=80=AFAM Michael G=
entry <
> > > > > >>>>>>>> [email protected]
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly, still broken for me.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 2:40=E2=80=AFPM Andrus A=
damchik <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This worked for me, so I deleted the tag:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git push origin :cayenne-parent-5.0-M2
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - [deleted]             cayenne-parent-5.0-M2
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe it will work now for you, that the old ta=
g
> is
> > > > gone?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrus
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 31, 2026, at 2:31=E2=80=AFPM, Michael G=
entry <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This command failed on me:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mvn release:prepare -DpreparationGoals=3D"clea=
n
> > > install"
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -DautoVersionSubmodules=3Dtrue
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I worked past the error and ran the command
> again,
> > > but
> > > > > it
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> failed
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't create the tag because the tag alread=
y
> > > > exists.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Somehow it
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the tag. So, I tried deleting the tag, but now
> I'm
> > > > > >>> getting:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mrg@odin 14:15:58] ~/Projects/cayenne master>
> > git
> > > > push
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> origin
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :cayenne-parent-5.0-M2
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ERROR: Permission to apache/cayenne.git denied
> to
> > > mrg.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same error when I use:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git push --delete origin cayenne-parent-5.0-M2
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions? Or does someone else have a
> > > smoother
> > > > > >>> path to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> take
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrg
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS. The tag got created when I had used HTTPS =
as
> > the
> > > > > clone
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> method. I
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't delete the tag that way, either (GitH=
ub
> > > > doesn't
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> support
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user/pass
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credentials), so I deleted the repo and checke=
d
> > out
> > > > > using
> > > > > >>>>> SSH,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I get the permissions error.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 1:29=E2=80=AFPM Michae=
l Gentry <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrus, I'm working on it. Trying to resol=
ve
> > > > > errors. I
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> suspect
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release guide is a little bit out of date.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2026 at 9:20=E2=80=AFAM Andru=
s
> Adamchik <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Mike, wanted to check how things are goi=
ng
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> release.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eager
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start using M2 and committing more cleanup
> code
> > :)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't have time for it now, not a
> problem
> > > > too.
> > > > > >>> Just
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> let
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> us
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikita and myself should be able to jump in.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrus
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 8:06=E2=80=AFPM, Michae=
l Gentry <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I should be able to start it Tuesday
> afternoon.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 24, 2026 at 5:47=E2=80=AFPM And=
rus
> > Adamchik <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think at this point we are ready to
> release
> > > M2.
> > > > It
> > > > > >>> has
> > > > > >>>>> a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> huge
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scope
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - a complete new agentic coding stack.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike, do you still have time to prepare th=
e
> > > > release?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrus
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2026, at 11:00=E2=80=AFAM, Mic=
hael
> Gentry
> > <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Nikita,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think there is an urgency to get =
M2
> > > out,
> > > > so
> > > > > >>> if
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outstanding
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PRs
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make sense to include in M2, I think it i=
s
> OK
> > > to
> > > > > >>> wait on
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrg
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 8:18=E2=80=AFAM N=
ikita
> > > Timofeev <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Several PRs are waiting for me, but
> nothing
> > is
> > > > too
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> critical,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ahead with M3.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instructions are all good, I use them
> every
> > > > time.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 2:37=E2=80=AFAM =
Andrus
> > > Adamchik
> > > > <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just filed all my taxes
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congrats! Which reminds me - I am still
> > > waiting
> > > > > >>> for my
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> numbers
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accountants :)
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I have some free cycles now if ther=
e
> is
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything I can do to help.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How about publishing the release.
> @Nikita -
> > > do
> > > > > you
> > > > > >>>>> have
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> queue we'd need to deal with before M2
> that
> > > > can't
> > > > > >>> be
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> moved
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M3?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything missing in the release
> > instructions
> > > at
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > https://cayenne.apache.org/dev/release-guide.html
> > > > > >>> ?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrus
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2026, at 6:16=E2=80=AFPM, M=
ichael
> > Gentry
> > > <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just filed all my taxes, so I have
> some
> > > free
> > > > > >>> cycles
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> now
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything I can do to help.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 5:08=E2=80=AFP=
M Andrus
> > > > Adamchik
> > > > > <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not too many significant new features
> in
> > M2
> > > > so
> > > > > >>> far,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> though
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bug
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fixes. So yeah, we probably should do
> it.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2026, at 4:45=E2=80=AFPM,=
 Michael
> > > Gentry
> > > > <
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it time for a 5.0.M2?
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed the M1 was released
> 2024-09-09
> > > and
> > > > > >>> that
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> seems
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago...
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrg
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikita Timofeev
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikita Timofeev
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Nikita Timofeev
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > >>>> Best regards,
> > > > > >>>> Nikita Timofeev
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > Nikita Timofeev
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Nikita Timofeev
>

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