Re: M3 feature preview
Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]> Sun, 12 Jul 2026 16:34:52 -0400
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The M3 change only affects selects. Previously, each select was = performed with autoCommit=3Dfalse, and was followed by an explicit = Connection.commit(). Now we switched to autoCommit=3Dtrue and no = explicit commit.=20 Hope this explains the change. Andrus > On Jul 12, 2026, at 4:10=E2=80=AFAM, Jurgen Doll = <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > Hi Andrus >=20 > Wrt autoCommit I'm a bit puzzled as to why: "Cayenne no longer wraps = selecting queries ...." therefore ".... this means that for the first = time Cayenne operates with Connection 'autoCommit=3Dtrue'" ? Are selects = and autoCommit related in some way ? > I'm asking because in my understanding autoCommit is only relevant to = updates and inserts which will still be wrapped as transactions won't = they ? > Or are you saying that there isn't any default transaction wrapping at = all any more in Cayenne, even for inserts and updates ? >=20 > Thanks for a great library! > Jurgen >=20 > On Jul 11 2026, at 9:21 pm, Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]> = wrote: >> As a Cayenne user, the majority of my apps in the last 25 years were = "autoCommit=3Dfalse" just because that's how the framework worked. So = this is also new to me and based on research, not production experience. = So I'd very much like to get community feedback on the actual behavior = and potential pitfalls. >>=20 >> Andrus >>=20 >>> On Jul 11, 2026, at 4:52=E2=80=AFAM, [email protected] wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hello Andrus, >>>=20 >>>> But this means that for the first time Cayenne operates with = Connection "autoCommit=3Dtrue". >>>=20 >>> =F0=9F=98=B1 >>> This setting is more scary that an Halloween costume to me! =F0=9F=98=85= >>> I trust your understanding of the trade-offs at play, but I have >>> always considered autoCommit the option used by toy projects, not >>> suitable for serious tasks. >>>=20 >>> But my views may well be obsolete by now. =F0=9F=98=81 >>>=20 >>> Cheers, and =E2=80=93as always=E2=80=93 huge congratulations to all = people involved in >>> moving the project forward. >>>=20 >>> Giulio Cesare >>>=20 >>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 3:17=E2=80=AFPM Andrus Adamchik = <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> I am glad the new change didn't break much stuff :) Always a = concern with all the new ideas. >>>>=20 >>>> BTW, as you probably noticed, we are now exposing translated = queries with parameters as standalone record objects instead of going = straight from translator to PreparedStatement, so they can be captured, = inspected, logged, etc (e.g., what the SQLLogger does). >>>>=20 >>>> And on the broader topic of observability, we started an effort to = integrate OpenTelemetry into Bootique, and I hope this will come back to = Cayenne as well. Would be nice to have otel spans for queries. But as = your video demonstrates, explicit instrumentation is almost irrelevant = these days. The tools are so good... they can grab the logs, or do = automated runtime instrumentation and show you transaction traces with = next to zero effort. >>>>=20 >>>> Andrus >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Jul 6, 2026, at 7:15=E2=80=AFPM, Hugi Thordarson = <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hi Andrus, >>>>>=20 >>>>> first =E2=80=94 that logging is a vast, vast improvement, I'm = loving it! >>>>>=20 >>>>> So happens I've been playing a lot with Cayenne's logging lately. = Very happy about how easy it was/is to hook into query logging and I've = used it to profile SQL-queries in my web application templates for years = now =E2=80=94 keeping track of the time methods spend querying to find = performance problems (profiling/aggregating by bindings rather than = methods really, in WO terms) and watching the SQL they executed. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Helpful, but has always been private utility logic for myself = since it just prints ugly text reports and I never took the time to make = it pretty and usable for others. >>>>>=20 >>>>> But that was before Claude :). So now there's this: Inline SQL = logging. Probably easiest described through video =E2=80=94 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DhoW1WusKSRo . >>>>>=20 >>>>> =E2=80=A6works great with the new SQLLogger interface. Already = ported, since I'll be switching to -SNAPSHOT (in dev only for a while, = to test the behaviour of the new transaction setup, really looking = forward to putting it through it's paces). >>>>> Been using M2 in production since release and it works great, = congrats on another awesome release :). >>>>>=20 >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> - hugi >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On 6 Jul 2026, at 13:37, Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]> = wrote: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I wanted to highlight a few things in the upcoming M3. They are = already on master, so maybe some brave souls can take it for a spin and = give us feedback :) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 1. Cayenne no longer wraps selecting queries (or at least those = it can reliably identify as selecting) into transactions. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I had a suspicion for years that we shouldn't be doing that. Now = I was able to vibecode real benchmarks on multiple databases, and time = savings in the JDBC layer with faster queries are about 2x! (as each = useless "commit" is a separate command sent to DB that needs to be = processed). But this means that for the first time Cayenne operates with = Connection "autoCommit=3Dtrue". So I'd appreciate feedback if this = causes any weirdness with your DataSources. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> 2. SQL logging changes. There are multiple changes. Some address = operational concerns (saving hundreds of GB of storage space; = single-line logs are easier to parse), others are "quality of life": >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> * No tx for selects (mentioned above) by itself cuts down on 2 = log lines per query >>>>>> * The new logger name is short and descriptive "cayenne-sql" >>>>>> * ERROR log level for queries that result in exceptions >>>>>> * SQL query logs are single-line. Parameters, timers, result = counters, generated keys are placed on one line and rendered in a = compact format. Tx wrapping is still done on separate lines (as a tx can = include more than one SQL statement) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> INFO cayenne-sql tx started >>>>>> INFO cayenne-sql INSERT INTO BINARY_PK_TEST1(BIN_ID, NAME) = VALUES(?, ?) | = bind:[BIN_ID:FBBC4034ED8F0214B2C559CF1029C1868A66F0D59208A36C9365126C248C.= ..,NAME:'master1'] updated:1 time_ms:0 >>>>>> INFO cayenne-sql tx committed >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> * Mnemonic table aliases. No more meaningless t0, t1, t2: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> INFO cayenne-sql SELECT p.ESTIMATED_PRICE, = p.PAINTING_DESCRIPTION, p.PAINTING_TITLE, p.ARTIST_ID, p.GALLERY_ID, = p.PAINTING_ID, g.GALLERY_ID, g.GALLERY_NAME FROM PAINTING p LEFT JOIN = GALLERY g ON p.GALLERY_ID =3D g.GALLERY_ID | selected:1 time_ms:0 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> * No alias for single-table queries >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> INFO cayenne-sql - SELECT ESTIMATED_PRICE, PAINTING_DESCRIPTION, = PAINTING_TITLE, ARTIST_ID, GALLERY_ID, PAINTING_ID FROM PAINTING | = selected:2 time_ms:0 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> (I am also thinking of lowercasing the SQL so that logs don't = look like they are screaming at you :)) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Andrus >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>=20 >=20