Re: Remove "cayenne-modeler-maven-plugin" in 5.0?

I do have a lot of empathy for people trying to bypass enterprise =
security :) So here is a simple working recipe:

--- pom fragment ---

<dependencies>
    <dependency>
        <groupId>org.apache.cayenne.modeler</groupId>
        <artifactId>cayenne-modeler</artifactId>
        <version>${cayenne.version}</version>
    </dependency>
</dependencies>

<build>
    <plugins>
        <plugin>
            <groupId>org.codehaus.mojo</groupId>
            <artifactId>exec-maven-plugin</artifactId>
            <version>3.5.0</version>
            <executions>
                <execution>
                    <id>run-modeler</id>
                    <goals>
                        <goal>java</goal>
                    </goals>
                </execution>
            </executions>
            <configuration>
                <mainClass>org.apache.cayenne.modeler.Main</mainClass>
            </configuration>
        </plugin>
    </plugins>
</build>


--- run command ----=20
$ mvn exec:java@run-modeler


It works with any version, past or future. We should just document this =
to make it more accessible.

Andrus


> On May 3, 2026, at 7:10=E2=80=AFPM, Michael Gentry =
<[email protected]> wrote:
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>> What's preventing those people from installing the Modeler?
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> Honestly, enterprise policy, especially on Windows systems that were =
much
> more locked down than Macs. Running CM as a Maven plugin backdoored =
the app
> into their systems. I could also make them a cm.bat file or give them =
the
> mvn command to run. The latter was usually preferred as running a .bat =
file
> was against policy.
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> mrg
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> On Sun, May 3, 2026 at 5:37=E2=80=AFPM Andrus Adamchik =
<[email protected]> wrote:
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>> I just whacked it yesterday :) Made Modeler internals a bit cleaner.
>>=20
>>> make it easier for people to run CM who didn't have it installed.
>>=20
>> I understand that this is the use case, but I can't relate to it. =
What's
>> preventing those people from installing the Modeler?
>>=20
>> A.
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On May 3, 2026, at 5:09=E2=80=AFPM, Michael Gentry =
<[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> I always created a cm.sh script in the root project directory to =
make it
>>> easier for people to run CM who didn't have it installed.
>>>=20
>>> The solution you show, for the Mac at least, works if you have CM
>> installed
>>> and a Mac. :-)
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>>> I don't have any strong opinions, but if the burden of keeping the =
Maven
>>> plugin is minimal, I think I'd want to keep it.
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>>> mrg
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>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 5:30=E2=80=AFPM Andrus Adamchik =
<[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>>>> FYI: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CAY-2925. Anyone feels
>>>> strongly about the need for starting the Modeler from Maven? This =
always
>>>> looked odd to me. Besides the following works just fine (on Mac):
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>>>> $ open CayenneModeler.app --args ~/path/to/cayenne-project.xml
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>>>> Andrus
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