Re: Barracuda: RE: Barracuda: on another topic

Jacob Kjome <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.java.enhydra.barracuda.general
Organization Springfield Nuclear Plant
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hello Robert,

A book on Barracuda would be just fantastic!  There has been no book
written specifically on Barracuda.  The only reference is what you see in the docs.

If you were to write a book on Barracuda, we'd certainly help out with
the details.  Ask away on the list about any questions you have.
We'll be happy to answer :-)

Keep in mind that no one working on Barracuda is working on it
full-time, but I think you can count on project-team and community
support.  Let us know about anything you might need.

Jake

Monday, December 16, 2002, 10:02:39 AM, you wrote:

RB> Hi Jacob,

RB> I am wondering, is there a book out on Barracuda?
RB> I have read the one on XMLC, which is mainly about
RB> the view generation stuff.  I mean a book about the
RB> event and page flow FW.  

RB> I have been evaluating Barracuda and Struts.  Struts
RB> is the market share leader, but I find it to be full
RB> of redundancies, poorly organized and structured,
RB> unnecessarily difficult to understand, difficult to
RB> accomplish simple things with, not as much supporting of 
RB> componentized re-use as it should be, and harder than
RB> it needs to be to do some simple things.  

RB> OTOH I find Barracuda to be conceptually simple,
RB> richer, and at at the same time much easier to understand
RB> and to see how to get things done. 

RB> I think that Barracuda needs a book in order to compete
RB> with Struts.  There are about six Struts books out now.

RB> Why I bring this up is that I would be interested in
RB> writing a book on Barracuda, but I would need the
RB> cooperation of the project team.

RB> Robert Blumen


RB> -----Original Message-----
RB> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
RB> Behalf Of Jacob Kjome
RB> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 9:55 AM
RB> To: Robert Blumen
RB> Subject: Re: Barracuda: your web site


RB> Hello Robert,

RB> All the docs for Barracuda are going to be modified for the move to the new
RB> BarracudaMVC.org server (not up quite yet, but soon).  I think Christian is
RB> driving the re-work, so if you have ideas for how to make sure that the
RB> pages are printer-friendly, send them to the list.

RB> One obvious way is to provide an stylesheet with a media type of "print".
RB> That way, the page can be whatever you want it to look like on the web and
RB> also look exactly how you want it for printing as well without either style
RB> constraining the other.

RB> To see this implemented, check out:
RB> http://www.alistapart.com/

RB> Try doing a print-preview of that page.  Notice how the right navigation
RB> that was on the page isn't there in the print-preview? That is because they
RB> have a printer-specific stylesheet defined: <link rel="stylesheet"
RB> type="text/css" media="print" href="/print.css" />


RB> Also, their lead story for this week is a nice guideline for what should
RB> happen with the Barracuda docs rework:
RB> http://www.alistapart.com/stories/flexiblelayouts/

RB> I have plenty of resources on these ideas.  If questions come up about
RB> styles, don't hesitate to query me.  I want to make sure the doc rework
RB> doesn't become a hob-job of nested tables and spacer images like it is
RB> currently.

RB> Jake

RB> Friday, December 13, 2002, 10:59:30 AM, you wrote:

RB>> Web pages such as 
RB>> http://barracuda.enhydra.org/cvs_source/Barracuda/docs/events/sample
RB>> _present
RB>> ation_flows.html don't print very well on my printer because they are
RB> too
RB>> wide.  The margin and the borders impose a fixed width.  Is there a way
RB> that
RB>> you could redo these so that they are variable width or provide a
RB>> print-friendly view?
 
RB>> Robert Blumen






-- 
Best regards,
 Jacob                            mailto:[email protected]

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