Re[2]: Examples not working

Jacob Kjome <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.java.enhydra.barracuda.general
Organization Springfield Nuclear Plant
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hello Christian,

Like I said in another email, the cleanest thing to do is to put the
jars in shared/lib so that it doesn't affect any Tomcat internals.
However, things will probably work just fine in common/endorsed so it
is probably fine to leave things that way.

Jake

Friday, January 17, 2003, 10:44:20 AM, you wrote:

CC> Ok, so with xalan and xerces OUT of my Barracuda's WEB-INF/lib, I still get
CC> the error on HelloWorld3. Now, these jars ARE installed in Tomcat's
CC> shared/lib.

CC> So, I moved these to Tomcat's endorsed directory, and voila! everything
CC> works again!

CC> Ok, very cool...I will upgrade accordingly on the server and check it out up
CC> there as well. We probably need to come up with a nice, clean install doc
CC> that explains exactly what to put where...I'll try and do that this weekend.

CC> Thanks for your help on this!

CC> Christian

CC> ----------------------------------------------
CC> Christian Cryder [[email protected]]
CC> Internet Architect, ATMReports.com
CC> Barracuda - http://barracudamvc.org
CC> ----------------------------------------------
CC> "Coffee? I could quit anytime, just not today"

CC>   -----Original Message-----
CC>   From: [email protected]
CC> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Jacob Kjome
CC>   Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:38 PM
CC>   To: [email protected]
CC>   Subject: RE: [Barracuda] Examples not working



CC>   Hmm.... one thing I stated in my previous email about Xerces and Xalan was
CC> that "Currently, by some luck and some super coding from Richard Kunze, we
CC> are able to put our version of Xerces in shared/lib even while Xerces2 is in
CC> common/endorsed".  Well, as it turns out, this seems true in every case
CC> except the one dealing with the XMLC templates compiled from XML files
CC> rather than HTML files.

CC>   The fix is quite simple.  Remove xercesImpl.jar and xmlParserAPIs.jar from
CC> CATALINA_HOME/common/endorsed.  It will work perfectly, I promise.  Or, you
CC> can always use the JDK1.4-lite version of Tomcat.  However, that excludes
CC> more libs than just the xml parser and I'd suggest using the full version
CC> and deleting the jars as stated previously.

CC>   Now, I know that this was a problem even with XMLC compiled HTML files at
CC> one point before Richard Kunze made some modifcations to allow xerces to be
CC> in shared/lib even when Xerces2 was in common/endorsed.  I just can't
CC> remember what those mods were?

CC>   Richard, if you are reading this, could you expound on what you did to
CC> make the latter case work?  Can the same be done for the case of XMLC
CC> compiled XML templates?  Hopefully you remember the change you made (and the
CC> conversation we had about it).

CC>   The other stuff about not putting xerces and xalan (or any of the xmlc
CC> classes, IMO) in WEB-INF/lib is still completely valid and has little to do
CC> with this issue.  The should be in shared/lib and nowhere else.


CC>   Jake

CC>   At 04:38 PM 1/16/2003 -0700, you wrote:

CC>     Hmmm...here's some more detail:

CC>     ----- Root Cause -----
CC>     java.lang.IllegalAccessError: tried to access method

CC> org.apache.xerces.dom.DocumentTypeImpl.setOwnerDocument(Lorg/apache/xerces/d
CC>     om/CoreDocumentImpl;)V from class
CC> org.enhydra.xml.lazydom.LazyDocumentType
CC>             at

CC> org.enhydra.xml.lazydom.LazyDocumentType.setOwnerDocument(LazyDocumentType.j
CC>     ava:74)
CC>             at
CC> org.enhydra.xml.lazydom.LazyDocument.<init>(LazyDocument.java:123)
CC>             at

CC> org.enhydra.xml.xmlc.dom.lazydom.LazyDomFactory.createDocument(LazyDomFactor
CC>     y.java:94)
CC>             at

CC> org.enhydra.barracuda.tutorials.xmlc.HelloWorld3XML.buildTemplateSubDocument
CC>     (Unknown Source)
CC>             at
CC> org.enhydra.barracuda.tutorials.xmlc.HelloWorld3XML.<clinit>(Unknown
CC>     Source)
CC>             at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
CC>             at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:140)
CC>             at

CC> org.enhydra.barracuda.tutorials.comp.HelloWorld3.class$(HelloWorld3.java:64)
CC>             at

CC> org.enhydra.barracuda.tutorials.comp.HelloWorld3.handleDefault(HelloWorld3.j
CC>     ava:64)
CC>             at

CC> org.enhydra.barracuda.core.comp.helper.ComponentGateway.handleDefault(Compon
CC>     entGateway.java:261)
CC>             at

CC> org.enhydra.barracuda.core.comp.helper.ComponentGateway.doGet(ComponentGatew
CC>     ay.java:170)
CC>             at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:740)
CC>             at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)

CC>     Looks to me like there is something in the current version of XMLC (2.1)
CC>     which is choking on the XML doc types. Its possible that this was
CC> introduced
CC>     in the last version of XMLC and just not caught until now...Jake -
CC> you've
CC>     spent some time looking at the internals of XMLC; any thoughts here?

CC>     I'll look at htis more later once I get a bit of time...

CC>     Christian
CC>     ----------------------------------------------
CC>     Christian Cryder [[email protected]]
CC>     Internet Architect, ATMReports.com
CC>     Barracuda - http://barracuda.enhydra.org
CC>     ----------------------------------------------
CC>     "Coffee? I could quit anytime, just not today"

CC>     > -----Original Message-----
CC>     > From: [email protected]
CC>     > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Christian Cryder
CC>     > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 4:21 PM
CC>     > To: [email protected]
CC>     > Subject: RE: [Barracuda] Examples not working
CC>     >
CC>     >
CC>     > Wierd...I'm getting that same error here locally too...I'll have
CC>     > to look at
CC>     > this more closely...maybe tonight. Seems to be dying on this line
CC> right
CC>     > here:
CC>     >
CC>     >         Class pageCl = HelloWorld3XML.class;
CC>     >
CC>     > But that class is clearly sitting there in the classpath. Hmmm....
CC>     >
CC>     > Christian
CC>     > ----------------------------------------------
CC>     > Christian Cryder [[email protected]]
CC>     > Internet Architect, ATMReports.com
CC>     > Barracuda - http://barracuda.enhydra.org
CC>     > ----------------------------------------------
CC>     > "Coffee? I could quit anytime, just not today"
CC>     >
CC>     > > -----Original Message-----
CC>     > > From: [email protected]
CC>     > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Denny Chambers
CC>     > > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:52 PM
CC>     > > To: [email protected]
CC>     > > Subject: Re: [Barracuda] Examples not working
CC>     > >
CC>     > >
CC>     > > All seem to work now except for this one:
CC>     > >
CC>     > > http://www.barracudamvc.org/Barracuda/tutorial/HelloWorld3
CC>     > >
CC>     > >
CC>     > > Christian Cryder wrote:
CC>     > >
CC>     > > >This should be doubly fixed now.
CC>     > > >
CC>     > > >We had forgotten to install the common XMLC/Xalan libraries in
CC> Tomcat's
CC>     > > >shared/lib. That's done now, so any webapps that run on this
CC>     > machine will
CC>     > > >have access to these libraries.
CC>     > > >
CC>     > > >In addition, I modified the Barracuda install target so that in
CC>     > > addition to
CC>     > > >copying needed files from lib-cvs to lib, it also copies the
CC> xmlc/xalan
CC>     > > >stuff from jars to lib. What this means is that Barracuda truly
CC>     > > should run
CC>     > > >out of the box on a Tomcat (or other appserver) - simply
CC>     > > >
CC>     > > >a) update from cvs
CC>     > > >b) run the ant install target (to get the appropriate jar files
CC>     > > in the right
CC>     > > >place)
CC>     > > >c) install the webapp in the appserver
CC>     > > >
CC>     > > >This gives us the advantage of being able to test new versions
CC>     > > of Barracuda
CC>     > > >libraries locally within the Barracuda webapp, and then only
CC>     > > upgrading them
CC>     > > >across the entire server when we're ready. At that point, all we
CC>     > > have to do
CC>     > > >is copy them into the tomcat shared/lib dir.
CC>     > > >
CC>     > > >Hope that helps!
CC>     > > >Christian
CC>     > > >
CC>     > > >----------------------------------------------
CC>     > > >Christian Cryder [[email protected]]
CC>     > > >Internet Architect, ATMReports.com
CC>     > > >Barracuda - http://barracuda.enhydra.org
CC>     > > >----------------------------------------------
CC>     > > >"Coffee? I could quit anytime, just not today"
CC>     > > >
CC>     > > >
CC>     > > >
CC>     > > >>-----Original Message-----
CC>     > > >>From: [email protected]
CC>     > > >>[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Christian
CC> Cryder
CC>     > > >>Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:02 PM
CC>     > > >>To: [email protected]
CC>     > > >>Subject: RE: [Barracuda] Examples not working
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>>This is good to know. I also have noticed that none of the
CC>     > > tutorials are
CC>     > > >>>working. Is this something that still needs work?
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>Yeah...they are working locally, and _should_ be working on
CC>     > > >>bmvc.org, but I
CC>     > > >>just verified that they're not...my guess is that they are not
CC> being
CC>     > > >>included in one of the jars. I'll check into it...
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>Christian
CC>     > > >>----------------------------------------------
CC>     > > >>Christian Cryder [[email protected]]
CC>     > > >>Internet Architect, ATMReports.com
CC>     > > >>Barracuda - http://barracuda.enhydra.org
CC>     > > >>----------------------------------------------
CC>     > > >>"Coffee? I could quit anytime, just not today"
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>>-----Original Message-----
CC>     > > >>>From: [email protected]
CC>     > > >>>[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Denny
CC> Chambers
CC>     > > >>>Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:55 PM
CC>     > > >>>To: [email protected]
CC>     > > >>>Subject: Re: [Barracuda] Contrib structure
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>This is good to know. I also have noticed that none of the
CC>     > > tutorials are
CC>     > > >>>working. Is this something that still needs work?
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>Christian Cryder wrote:
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>>>module).  I would also like to recommend making the
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>barracudamvc.org web
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>>>>pages a seperate module, since that would allow you to assign
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>access to
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>>>>folks, who want to work on the web site, documention, or
CC>     > > demos. Just a
CC>     > > >>>>>suggestion.
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>Well, we will keep them as part of the Barracuda docs, but we
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>can control
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>>>cvs access to just this portion of the tree - Shawn and I
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>discussed this
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>>>already - basically we will be able to give people commit access
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>>to the docs
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>>portion without actually giving them commit privileges to the
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>>src trees...
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>>Christian
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>>>----------------------------------------------
CC>     > > >>>>Christian Cryder [[email protected]]
CC>     > > >>>>Internet Architect, ATMReports.com
CC>     > > >>>>Barracuda - http://barracuda.enhydra.org
CC>     > > >>>>----------------------------------------------
CC>     > > >>>>"Coffee? I could quit anytime, just not today"
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
CC>     > > >>>>>From: [email protected]
CC>     > > >>>>>[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
CC>     > Denny Chambers
CC>     > > >>>>>Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 1:17 PM
CC>     > > >>>>>To: [email protected]
CC>     > > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Barracuda] Contrib structure
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>I like this approach better. My first thought was to see if
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>contributors
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>>>>could get their own account on the server. Then we could setup
CC>     > > >>>>>apache/tomcat to allow user directories (like
CC>     > > >>>>>www.barracudamvc.org/~dennyc - i believe this possible
CC>     > with tomcat).
CC>     > > >>>>>This way each contributor would be able to set up there
CC>     > own web space
CC>     > > >>>>>(Web apps, docs, source, binaries) under there user directory.
CC> My
CC>     > > >>>>>preference would be to keep contrib stuff seperate from
CC>     > the Barracuda
CC>     > > >>>>>CVS module. So my vote is to keep the contrib stuff totally
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>seperate, so
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>>>>that users can download the contrib code totally seperate
CC>     > > from the CVS
CC>     > > >>>>>(from each contrib user personal directory as a zip file),
CC>     > > or that the
CC>     > > >>>>>contrib stuff becomes a seperate module in CVS. By atleast
CC>     > > making it a
CC>     > > >>>>>seperate module, it will allow you to do finer grain access
CC>     > > control to
CC>     > > >>>>>cvs (developer can have access to contrib module, but not the
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>Barracuda
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>>>>module).  I would also like to recommend making the
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>barracudamvc.org web
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>>>>pages a seperate module, since that would allow you to assign
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>access to
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>>>>folks, who want to work on the web site, documention, or
CC>     > > demos. Just a
CC>     > > >>>>>suggestion.
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>Denny
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>Christian Cryder wrote:
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>Hi folks,
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>I'd like to take this opportunity to start a conversation on
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>how best to
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>structure the contrib stuff on the new server. Basically, what
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>we have right
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>now is something like this:
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>/Barracuda
CC>     > > >>>>>>/src
CC>     > > >>>>>>  /org/enhydra/barracuda...
CC>     > > >>>>>>    ...
CC>     > > >>>>>>    /core (core packages)
CC>     > > >>>>>>    /contrib
CC>     > > >>>>>>      /dbroggisch
CC>     > > >>>>>>         /display (source)
CC>     > > >>>>>>         /dtd
CC>     > > >>>>>>         /repopulation (source)
CC>     > > >>>>>>         /webapp
CC>     > > >>>>>>           /docs
CC>     > > >>>>>>           /src
CC>     > > >>>>>>           /src_mockups
CC>     > > >>>>>>           /web
CC>     > > >>>>>>             /WEB-INF
CC>     > > >>>>>>      ... (other contributors)
CC>     > > >>>>>>/WEB-INF
CC>     > > >>>>>>  /lib-cvs (this is where the jars are kept)
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>Right now, when you build the contrib package, the classes get
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>compiled into
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>the main Barracuda /WEB-INF/classes directory, and are then
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>eventually
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>>>>>jarred into the main WEB-INF/lib-cvs/barracuda-contrib.jar.
CC> I'd
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>like to keep
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>this working this way, since it keeps all the actual source
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>attached to the
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>main Barracuda project.
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>Now, where things get murky (IMO), is that the way things
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>are currently
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>
CC>     > > >>>>>>structure, Diez's contrib structure also contains a sample
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>webapps, with
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>docs, etc. This is the part I find confusing, since its
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>ultimately rooted
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>under Barracuda's /src directory (and its really not
CC>     > source at all).
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>SO...what I'd like to propose is that we structure our cvs
CC> tree
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>like this:
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>/var/cvs...
CC>     > > >>>>>>  /Barracuda
CC>     > > >>>>>>  /BarracudaDiskRack
CC>     > > >>>>>>  /Contrib
CC>     > > >>>>>>    /dbroggisch (webapp)
CC>     > > >>>>>>      /docs
CC>     > > >>>>>>      /WEB-INF
CC>     > > >>>>>>    /christianc (webapp)
CC>     > > >>>>>>      /docs
CC>     > > >>>>>>      /WEB-INF
CC>     > > >>>>>>    /hoju
CC>     > > >>>>>>      /Sample1 (webapp)
CC>     > > >>>>>>        /docs
CC>     > > >>>>>>        /WEB-INF
CC>     > > >>>>>>      /Sample2 (webapp)
CC>     > > >>>>>>        /docs
CC>     > > >>>>>>        /WEB-INF
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>The basic idea here is that
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>a) anyone can get their own contrib directory under the
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>Barracuda tree...add
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>your code there, and it'll get automatically included into the
CC>     > > >>>>>>barracuda-contrib.jar
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>b) anyone who wants to set up sample webapps that demonstrate
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>their code can
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>then get their own contrib directory under the Contrib cvs
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>tree...they could
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>have one webapp or many; its totally up to them. They
CC>     > could also use
CC>     > > >>>>>>whatever build system or format they want.
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>I think this would give us maximum flexiblity to experiement
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>with various
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>approaches, while keeping the overall Barracuda src tree
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>relatively clean.
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>One of the keys to making this work would be to adopt Jakes
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>ccf.xml method
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>for installing webapps into tomcat...then, every app
CC> (including
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>Barracuda)
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>could register with Tomcat without us having to
CC>     > constantly edit the
CC>     > > >>>>>>server.xml file.
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>These are just my initial thoughts...comments and
CC>     > feedback welcome!
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>Christian
CC>     > > >>>>>>----------------------------------------------
CC>     > > >>>>>>Christian Cryder [[email protected]]
CC>     > > >>>>>>Internet Architect, ATMReports.com
CC>     > > >>>>>>Barracuda - http://barracuda.enhydra.org
CC>     > > >>>>>>----------------------------------------------
CC>     > > >>>>>>"Coffee? I could quit anytime, just not today"
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>_______________________________________________
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CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
CC>     > > >>>>>>
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