Re: helma user-base

On Apr 3, 2008, at 15:50 , Anton Pirker wrote:
> hello!
>
> i just wondered if someone knows how many helma-developers are out  
> there?
>
> are there some numbers on downloads of releases or svn-updates to the
> repository?

I don't have the stats for that. Don't know if Hannes knows.

 From the stats I have, I know about approximately 1000 visits to the  
download page per month. How many of these actually translate into  
downloads I don't know. Plus I know about approximately 10'000  
additional direct downloads (not accessing via the download web page)  
per year based on stats from sites like versiontracker.com,  
macupdate.com, apple.com and freshmeat.net.

> are there any estimations about how much of us are out there?

It's really hard to say. A lot more than we think, I think. It seems  
I'm increasingly coming across people that have used helma for several  
month or even years without that they ever subscribed to a mailing  
list, popped into the irc channel or blogged/mentioned helma before.

Plus, since Helma is BSD licensed, I'm sure there are quite a lot of  
companies out there that have built their business/products on top of  
Helma, but that do not talk about it publicly. For example, I only  
learned about Axiom, a commercial Helma fork (http://axiomstack.com/),  
when one of their employees came to the #helma irc channel a few  
months ago, even-though they seem to have been around for years and  
are subscribed to the mailing list.

Chris