[hibernate-dev] Re: Automatically Upgrade to HTTPS

"Max Rydahl Andersen" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.java.hibernate.devel
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can you control the dns ? i.e. for jbang.dev I moved to cloud flare for 
dns to let me do things GitHub pages and hover.com didn't support doing.

cloudflare seem to have more fine grained control options.

/max

> +1
>
> I think we need to move off github pages; it's great for simple
> projects but it's not flexible enough for us.
>
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 08:55, Gunnar Morling <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>
>>> it broke legacy applications whose XML parser will automatically 
>>> fetch
>> the DTD from hibernate.org on startup,
>>
>> Gasp, I see. They shouldn't really be fetching that file in the first
>> place, but I see how you don't want to break those consumers.
>>
>> You might do it perhaps by announcing a transition date in a few 
>> months
>> (e.g. 2020/03/31), giving people time to upgrade. I cannot quantify 
>> the SEO
>> impact of this, but I suppose it's only getting worse. Tough choice 
>> :(
>>
>> --Gunnar
>>
>>
>> Am Mo., 23. Nov. 2020 um 17:34 Uhr schrieb Yoann Rodiere <
>> [email protected]>:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> Ah, this again.
>>>
>>> We've already looked into it. Last time we did, we got bug reports 
>>> because
>>> it broke legacy applications whose XML parser will automatically 
>>> fetch the
>>> DTD from hibernate.org on startup, and does not handle redirection 
>>> or
>>> HTTPS (I don't know which exactly).
>>>
>>> We cannot do this redirection on a per-page basis (to exclude /dtd/)
>>> because we're using GitHub pages and the redirection setting is 
>>> global.
>>>
>>> So right now, we could only do this by moving away from GitHub 
>>> pages. And
>>> then we'd probably need some cache in front of our server.
>>>
>>> Long story short, nobody had time to look into this so far.
>>>
>>> Yoann Rodière
>>> Hibernate Team
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 at 17:23, Gunnar Morling <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> I just noticed that visiting http://hibernate.org/ (i.e. not 
>>>> http*s*)
>>>> will
>>>> not automatically upgrade you to HTTPS, but leave you with that 
>>>> ugly
>>>> unsecure icon in the browser address bar. It's also what you get 
>>>> when
>>>> simply typing hibernate.org (i.e. 99% of users).
>>>>
>>>> As search engines tend to penalize non-HTTPS these days, I'd 
>>>> suggest to
>>>> look into automatically upgrading if possible.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> --Gunnar
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