Re: Creating a Client Webpage with embedded Java

Hello,

Am 03.04.25 um 01:04 schrieb slipbits:
> 
> Just looked at vaadin. It's a commercial product with a monthly 
> subscription fee. From the video it looks like small scale UI is 
> supported but, from the video, it doesn't seem that a project (10,000 
> SLOC) is supported. That is, I would have expected that a jar would be 
> created and then accessed when the page is run in the browser, with an 
> interface from the created UI to the executing jar.

IMHO quite the opposite. Vaadin could be overkill for such a small 
project. It's an enterprise grade UI platform.

> But, the real stop is the subscription fee. The project(s) I'm working 
> on are all to be placed in the public domain, and being retired, my 
> income stream is limited to investments, not a salary. So, for me, its' out.

Vaadin is Open Source, you don't need to pay a subscription fee. There 
are some features and components that are not Open Source, but it will 
take you a long time to advance to a level, where you need them.

> I don't know how to do any of this! I'm an algorithm guy and have 
> (professionally) spent almost zero time on any UI work.  What I have so 
> far heard is that this is something well suited to a client server 
> interaction. But I would like to download all the products in the client.

If you don't know Java well, I would not recommend Vaadin. It's for 
developers, who are well-versed in Java, but not so much in client-side 
UI technologies. Vaadin is one of a kind, but of course it has drawbacks 
as well and can become very involved very quickly.

I would suggest you learn JSP, it is quite dated and nobody uses it 
anymore, but it is a useful foundation for learning newer UI 
technologies and it will serve you well for a simple UI. The next step 
up from that would be Spring Boot with Thymeleaf, so if you want to 
learn something reasonably current, go for that.

Kind regards,

Ulrich

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