Re: General Project Questions

Matt,
I am playing with the CVS version now and if I go with it I'll work on
clean URLS.  I have not worked with WW2 at all but it looks interesting so
I'll give it a go.

My main concern is a stable platform that I can build onto without
breaking compatibility to the 'official' project.  I would be interested
in a case study about how thefitpros are retrofitting JLCP into their site
(and why).

So far this I like the code and the ideas behind this project the most as
compared to other open source java CMS's.

If anyone is at the JavaOne session I would love to understand why
developers would choose to migrate a postnuke site running PHP on any
shared  server to a complex J2EE app on a larger system.

I have two reasons:
1) Clean code - Java Classes and Namespace allow you to adding features
and modifications w/o cooking spaghetti (And you really need a persistent
app server to use classes properly.)
2) Scalability - I would like to support multiple customers on one code base.

Thanks,
-Aaron Held
> Aaron,
>    Thanks for your interest in JLCP.  The questions you
> are asking are things that have come up a lot recently!
>  First, there are no plans for a swing gui, but it should
> be pretty easy to expose the data via webservices.  2nd,
> we are following somethin similar to postnuke urls, but
> this may change.  3rd, we'd love to support clean urls.
>  Do you want to volunteer to implement that?  4th, check
> out www.thefitpros.com for a live site.  It runs on WW2
> and will be using more of JLCP (including a CMS engine) in
> the next 2 weeks or so I think.  As for performance
> benchmarks, we haven't run any yet since our core hasn't
> been particularly stable.  I'll hit it hard with a web
> stress test after this next release.  4th, the
> infrastructure is Struts right now, but we have plans to
> switch to WW2 in the next 2 weeks.  And 5th, no logic flow
> unfortunately.  We'll try and get that mapped out soon.
>   Some automatically generated diagrams would be nice.
>
> JLCP should be sufficient for what you need, and it should
> handle the load pretty well (of course we'll do some
> testing on that).  If you have more questions, please ask
> me.  We will also try to see if we can get the J1 slides
> released after the presentation.  I'm not sure how Sun
> will handle that, but we'll just have to see :)
>
> -Matt
>
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 15:30:52 -0400
>   Aaron Held <[email protected]> wrote:
>>I have a couple of general questions about the project,
>>but I'll understand it nobody answers until after
>>JavaOne.
>>
>>1) Are there any plans for a swing GUI?
>>2) Will you be following PostNuke URLS??
>>?module=gallery&file=....
>>2a) Can it support clean URLS (/modules/gallers/file/,,,)
>>3) Are there any live sites using the engine?
>>3a) Are there any performance benchmarks?
>>4) What is the infrastructure?  Stuts / WW2 ???
>>5) Is there an application flow map anywhere? I am trying
>>to follow the logic and get lost somewhere after
>>LayoutServlet ;)
>>
>>
>>The rambling background....
>>
>>I have deployed my fair share of PHPNuke/Postnuke sites
>>over the years and I am on the eternal quest for a better
>>solution.  It is simply too difficult to keep
>>customizing, patching and upgrading miles of PHP to get
>>what I want.
>>
>>One of the sites that I built
>>(http://www.ManalapanSoccerClub.com) (My son is the
>>sweatshirt model w/ the purple face in the apparel
>>section...) is having a hard time maintaining the content
>>of the site, so I was thinking about building a GUI and
>>some modules specific to thier needs. (Like a Documents
>>and Forms page).  Adding a module to the php nuke site is
>>very easy (The photo gallery is about 40 lines of code
>>and did not require a restart to install).
>>
>>I am going either to build one myself in Webware for
>>Python (webware.sf.net) or Zope's Plone.  (I'm not going
>>to go the Java route if I am the sole developer of a
>>custom app)
>>
>>The main reason that I want to go with a Java/Python
>>implementation is that I want to be able to extend a
>>generic system in a cleaner way then is possibile with
>>PHP.
>>
>>I am also developing another site that may (hopefully)
>>see a lot of traffic and they PHP version cannot handle a
>>large load w/ my modifications.  So I either have to
>>rewrite that without basing it on an open project or get
>>a bigger box.
>>
>>Hopefully there will be some slides from JavaONE that I
>>can see that will answer these questions.
>>(I would have loved to go again, but nowadays I have to
>>do silly things like justify travel expenses.....)
>>
>>Thanks,
>>-Aaron Held