Re: Does jdom.jar - 1.1.1 Supported by JAVA 11 ?
Michael Kay <[email protected]> Fri, 24 May 2019 07:41:26 +0100
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--===============0940043892== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E3B9DC86-AB1F-4E23-A7E6-E8A2DB7766A3" --Apple-Mail=_E3B9DC86-AB1F-4E23-A7E6-E8A2DB7766A3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The word "supported" should really be banned from the vocabulary of = computing, and you really need to be clearer what you are asking. There are several meanings that I see commonly used, often (as here) = with a lack of clarity about which is intended. X supports Y may mean: * X is an organisation that provides a defined level of help and = assistance to users of Y * X is a piece of software that has been tested and is known to work in = environment Y (e.g. JDOM 2 supports Java 11, where X =3D JDOM 2 and Y =3D = Java 11) * Y is a piece of software that has been tested and is known to work in = environment X (e.g. Java 11 supports JDOM 2, where X =3D Java 11 and Y =3D= JDOM 2) * X and Y have not been explicitly tested to work together, but some = organisation exists that is prepared to offer assistance if you try = running them together. When new Java releases come out, the usual situation is that (a) = software like JDOM that worked on earlier releases continues to work, = (b) no-one formally tests that this is the case, (c) if the sofware in = question is open source, and you hit problems, then you have no = contractual entitlement to support from anyone, but (d) with luck, there = is an open-source community willing to help you find and fix the = problem. So the combination of JDOM and Java 11 is almost certain to = work, but no-one is prepared to offer you a guarantee that this will be = the case, or a contractual undertaking to help you if it isn't. In the old vertically-integrated days when you went to IBM for all your = computing needs, "supported" meant that what you were doing had an = official imprimatur from IBM. That world disappeared 40 years ago, and = the word "supported" ought to have disappeared at the same time. Michael Kay Saxonica > On 24 May 2019, at 05:52, Jason Hunter <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > First, you really should upgrade to a newer version of JDOM. Even to = 1.1.3 if you don't want to jump to the 2.x branch. >=20 > Second, JDOM is true open source software. Everyone here is a = volunteer. It looks like you probably have a day job at TIBCO and = you're trying to determine this as part of a corporate effort. So let = me suggest that you try things yourself. Run the JDOM test suite on a = Java 11 system. Feel free to report back the results. >=20 > -jh- >=20 >> On May 23, 2019, at 03:42, Hardik Savsani <[email protected] = <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Team, >>=20 >> Hope... you are doing great. >>=20 >> We are developing a product which is using the following jar: >>=20 >> jdom.jar - 1.1.1=20 >>=20 >> We want to confirm only whether above mentioned jar supported by Java = 11 or not. >>=20 >> Could you please confirm on this. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Hardik >> _______________________________________________ >> To control your jdom-interest membership: >> = http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/[email protected] = <http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/[email protected]> > _______________________________________________ > To control your jdom-interest membership: > = http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/[email protected] --Apple-Mail=_E3B9DC86-AB1F-4E23-A7E6-E8A2DB7766A3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">The = word "supported" should really be banned from the vocabulary of = computing, and you really need to be clearer what you are asking.<div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">There are several = meanings that I see commonly used, often (as here) with a lack of = clarity about which is intended.</div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">X supports Y may mean:</div><div = class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">* X is an organisation = that provides a defined level of help and assistance to users of = Y</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">* X is a = piece of software that has been tested and is known to work in = environment Y (e.g. JDOM 2 supports Java 11, where X =3D JDOM 2 and Y =3D = Java 11)</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">* Y = is a piece of software that has been tested and is known to work in = environment X (e.g. Java 11 supports JDOM 2, where X =3D Java 11 and Y =3D= JDOM 2)</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">* X = and Y have not been explicitly tested to work together, but some = organisation exists that is prepared to offer assistance if you try = running them together.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">When new Java releases come out, the usual situation is that = (a) software like JDOM that worked on earlier releases continues to = work, (b) no-one formally tests that this is the case, (c) if the = sofware in question is open source, and you hit problems, then you have = no contractual entitlement to support from anyone, but (d) with luck, = there is an open-source community willing to help you find and fix the = problem. So the combination of JDOM and Java 11 is almost certain to = work, but no-one is prepared to offer you a guarantee that this will be = the case, or a contractual undertaking to help you if it = isn't.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">In the = old vertically-integrated days when you went to IBM for all your = computing needs, "supported" meant that what you were doing had an = official imprimatur from IBM. That world disappeared 40 years ago, and = the word "supported" ought to have disappeared at the same = time.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Michael = Kay</div><div class=3D"">Saxonica</div><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div = class=3D"">On 24 May 2019, at 05:52, Jason Hunter <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" = class=3D"">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta = http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii" = class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: = space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">First, you really = should upgrade to a newer version of JDOM. Even to 1.1.3 if you = don't want to jump to the 2.x branch.<div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Second, JDOM is true open source = software. Everyone here is a volunteer. It looks like you = probably have a day job at TIBCO and you're trying to determine this as = part of a corporate effort. So let me suggest that you try things = yourself. Run the JDOM test suite on a Java 11 system. Feel = free to report back the results.<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">-jh-<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br = class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On May = 23, 2019, at 03:42, Hardik Savsani <<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class=3D"">[email protected]</a>> = wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div = dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,50,56);font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-= serif" class=3D"">Hi Team,</span><br = style=3D"font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,50,56);font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-= serif" class=3D""><br = style=3D"font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,50,56);font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-= serif" class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,50,56);font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-= serif" class=3D"">Hope... you are doing great.</span><br = style=3D"font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,50,56);font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-= serif" class=3D""><br = style=3D"font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,50,56);font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-= serif" class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,50,56);font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-= serif" class=3D"">We are developing a product which is using the = following jar:</span><br = style=3D"font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,50,56);font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-= serif" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><b class=3D""><span = class=3D"gmail-m_7652264747489249850gmail-il"><span = class=3D"gmail-il">jdom</span></span>.jar - 1.1.1 <br = class=3D""></b><br = style=3D"font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,50,56);font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-= serif" class=3D""><span = style=3D"font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,50,56);font-family:Roboto,Arial,sans-= serif" class=3D"">We want to confirm only whether above mentioned jar = supported by Java 11 or not.</span><div class=3D""><font color=3D"#263238"= face=3D"Roboto, Arial, sans-serif" class=3D""><br = class=3D""></font></div><div class=3D""><font color=3D"#263238" = face=3D"Roboto, Arial, sans-serif" class=3D"">Could you please confirm = on this.<br class=3D""></font><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div = class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"">Hardik</div></div></div></div> _______________________________________________<br class=3D"">To control = your jdom-interest membership:<br class=3D""><a = href=3D"http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr@yourhos= t.com" = class=3D"">http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr@your= host.com</a></div></blockquote></div><br = class=3D""></div></div></div>_____________________________________________= __<br class=3D"">To control your jdom-interest membership:<br = class=3D""><a = href=3D"http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr@yourhos= t.com" = class=3D"">http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/youraddr@your= host.com</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_E3B9DC86-AB1F-4E23-A7E6-E8A2DB7766A3-- --===============0940043892== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ To control your jdom-interest membership: http://www.jdom.org/mailman/options/jdom-interest/[email protected] --===============0940043892==--