Re: Re: Page rename crashed second time around

Claudia,

I don't see why you would need long names.
You can still give your pages reasonable --short-- names.
But each page could be part of multiple categories, just by adding
many category links.

dirk

On 8/1/07, Claudia Frers <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thx Dirk ..that was the idea but i was concerned about the long names needed
> to achieve this goal...but i  guess that  there is no  "better" way.
>
>
>
> On 7/31/07, Dirk Frederickx <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Claudia,
> >
> > Instead of just linking back to SiteMap, why not link back to
> > different categories?
> >
> > EG
> > > Example: JSPwikiManualAdminSecurityACLHowTo UseACL
> > Would link back to
> > [HowToCategory] [ACLCategory] [ManualAdminCategory]
> >
> > Each category page could on its turn link back to the Category page or
> > our SiteMap page.
> >
> >
> > dirk
> >
> >
> > On 7/31/07, Claudia Frers <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Juan or Janne --sorry to sneak this question in this thread but I have
> > tried
> > > to rephrase it as no one
> > > has responded yet and I am sure that there must be a better way:
> > >
> > > If anyone has used the Referring Pages Plugin, I am in need of advice or
> > a
> > > best practice.
> > > My idea is to keep track of all my pages and keep a SiteMap. Therefore,
> > each
> > > page contains a link called  SiteMap. I can filter out each Category by
> > > using the include parameter to filter them:
> > > *Category CSS\\
> > > [{ReferringPagesPlugin include='CSS*'}]
> > > *Category HowTo:\\
> > > [{ReferringPagesPlugin include='HowTo*'}]
> > > *Category All:\\
> > > [{ReferringPagesPlugin include='*'}]
> > >
> > > Has anyone a good idea as to how to organize this in a way that the page
> > > names do not get too long?
> > > Example: JSPwikiManualAdminSecurityACLHowTo UseACL
> > >
> > > I'm hoping that someone has a better strategy than mine :-) but I am
> > partial
> > > to many short pages than few long ones . I also have no problemwith long
> > > names but they clutter the " Your trail:"
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/31/07, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Claudia,
> > > >
> > > > yep you're right
> > > >
> > > > I've silently tried the same thing with a local installation at my
> > office,
> > > > 2.5.89, being authenticated (it requires anyone to be authenticated to
> > do
> > > > anything) and I got the same results you described. I've tried again
> > at
> > > > sandbox, being anonymous, and I do get the exception. I'll look into
> > it
> > > > later.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > JP
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2007/7/31, Claudia Frers <[email protected]>:
> > > > >
> > > > > Same experiment. Difference I am on localhost. Using FF with three
> > tabs
> > > > > open
> > > > > to same
> > > > > page=Home.
> > > > >
> > > > > I still can't reproduced it:
> > > > > Rename page in first
> > > > > browser window/tab, checking the update referers checkbox Home to
> > > > Home2).
> > > > > Then go to the second and try to do the same operation Home to
> > Home3,
> > > > > instead of Home2 to Home1) and no exception.
> > > > >
> > > > > But when I rename them all again to Home only on page is Home with
> > the
> > > > > original Home content. The next page is named Home but is empty and
> > I am
> > > > > asked to create it. The third page is missing an Info tab and
> > remains as
> > > > > Home2.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the had disk only one page has been created Home.
> > > > >
> > > > > >So may be it's caused when trying to rename an inexistent page :-?
> > > > >
> > > > > Nope ..in my tests non existent pages do not have an info tab.
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI..I do not use the default permissions. And my tests are as an
> > > > > authenticated user.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > > Claudia
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/31/07, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think I've reproduced it:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Open a page twice and go to Info Tab in both browsers (i.e.
> > > > > > http://sandbox.jspwiki.org/PageInfo.jsp?page=About). Rename page
> > in
> > > > > first
> > > > > > browser window/tab, checking the update referers checkbox (About
> > to
> > > > > > About2).
> > > > > > Then go to the second and try to do the same operation (About to
> > > > About3,
> > > > > > instead of About2 to About3) and you get the exception stated by
> > Milt.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So may be it's caused when trying to rename an inexistent page :-?
> > I'm
> > > > > > currently at work, I've tried this with sandbox.jspwiki.org. I
> > don't
> > > > > have
> > > > > > the logs, so may be is not the same issue, although I've got the
> > same
> > > > > > exception.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > JP
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2007/7/31, Claudia Frers <[email protected]>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I cant get it to crash either Milt. Tried several times in a row
> > > > > > ..worked
> > > > > > > for me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 7/31/07, Milt Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'll see if I can reproduce it, but before I do I think I may
> > need
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > add a logging statement somewhere in the code to dump a
> > stacktrace
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > the logs when this happens.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Janne Jalkanen wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It would be good if you could add your observations to
> > > > > > > > > http://bugs.jspwiki.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It's a known bug, but I don't really know what is causing
> > it.  I
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > far
> > > > > > > > > have never been able to replicate it on my setup...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > /Janne
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 2007, at 17:46 , Milt Taylor wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Just trying a few things in 2.5.108...only having recently
> > > > > switched
> > > > > > > > >> from 2.4 so this may not be recently introduced problem.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Did a page rename (updating referrers) which worked
> > correctly
> > > > > first
> > > > > > > > >> time, then I tried another one and it crashed with a
> > servlet
> > > > > > > exception
> > > > > > > > >> message to browser, null pointer in something to do with
> > the
> > > > lock
> > > > > > > > >> manager? (This didn't appear to make it to the logs
> > either).
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Restarted the wiki, and the page rename had actually
> > succeeded,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > >> crashed before it got to update the referrers.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Hopefully should be easy to reproduce?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Cheers,
> > > > > > > > >> Milt
> > > > > > > > >>
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