Re: Anyone want to beta test JSPWiki Tag plugin?

   - a Tag plugin (for setting one or more tags on a page) and a
   - HasTagOf plugin (for querying tags).


Hi Murray:
you wrote:
>I'll send the distro along to Claudia as promised, if there's anyone
>else who'd like to test this -- promising feedback -- just let me
>know.

Did I miss something? I never recieved the distro...Do I need to install
cvs?


It took me a while to understand the discussion between you and John cause I
kept hoping that the
available core pluggins could be somehow tweaked to do what I need...No such
luck..

Questions:
>I'm going to submit a patch soon for a new page rename event so that
>page renames will register with the TagManager.

1. Is this done/finished?? Currently I rename pages from the hard disk to
avoid the exceptions being thrown
when I use the rename button.

>The only change on the administrator's part will be to replace
>the tag jar file with a new one, and add the assertions jar file.
>Everything will still work the same but behind the scenes the
>wiki will be maintaining a Topic Map of its relationships.

2.Do I need to be working from Ceryle or does this apply to JSPwiki admins
as well?  IOW, I assume that CeryleWiki,
builds on Jspwiki (apologies for not knowing the boundries)...but if we are
adding jar files
I assume that a recompilation of JSPwiki would be needed right?

>>next steps....
Unfortunately for some users wiki markup seems geeky so we can't
expect them to remember to TAG their pages. Perhaps, you can
give them the option of adding them to a  topic map before the page is
created...I have concluded that I need someway to TAG my jspwiki pages.

But unless it is drop dead easy for users to TAG their pages my guess is
that they won't.

>I'm also willing (time permitting) to help anyone who wants to write
a tag-related plugin that uses the TagManager.

Murray, this makes me think that my choices if I want

   - a Tag plugin (for setting one or more tags on a page) and a
   - HasTagOf plugin (for querying tags).

is to either switch to Ceryle
or to create my own pluggin for jspwiki or is the TagManager a part of
Jspwiki?

Sorry to be this confused. :-(
Claudia











On 8/13/07, Murray Altheim <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Volkar, John M. wrote:
> > Murray,
> > Most excellent...
> >
> > When I get the distro I'll see about making Query and Tag play nice
> > together; It's not nice to rape code like that, I'm sure there is
> > something cleaner that we can do... But I completely agree with being
> > expeditious in this case... Raping the IS modifier was easy and let you
> > have tag logic in the first release.
>
> Well, the wikis it's being targeted for will either have no advertised
> QueryPlugin (it's a bit advanced/geeky for some audiences), or will
> have the assertion framework in place. Actually, when I think about it,
> the latter would actually get messed up by having its IS modifier broken,
> with my ugly plan had been to copy the entirety of the query plugin
> package into the tag plugin hierarchy so there'd be no overlap, if it
> came to that and schedules didn't permit me to spend the time figuring
> this out further.
>
> Not sure I mentioned this or not but there is now tag cloud support,
> see
>
>    http://altheim.4java.ca/ceryle/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=TagCloudPlugin
>
>    http://altheim.4java.ca/ceryle/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=PopularTags
>   (well...)
>
> (Yes, installed this on the CeryleWiki, which is generic 2.4.102).
>
> > Regards & I'm looking forward to it...
>
> Will send in a few minutes off list. Just want to check the latest
> into my CVS and then I'll package it up. I had realized earlier that
> I should be using WeakReferences and haven't tested it completely
> following that change.
>
> Murray
>
>
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