Re: Question on jsf-api.jar

Most useful info, thanks!

Michael Nash <[email protected]> wrote:Carlos:

On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 01:15, Carlos Cardenas wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I am confused. Do we at keel have JSF implementation?

Yes, two of them in fact :-)

> If so, do we want to continue doing it?

IMO, yes.

> I've read in varios lists that MyFaces is getting
> quite good.

Yes, I believe it is. My difficulty with MyFaces is that it is (like the
RI), oriented towards JSP, which Keel doesn't insist on. For example, I
use JSF mostly with Cocoon (and XML/XSL).

> I event think we could use the JSF-RI,

Licensing problems exist there, in the sense that the RI is not
open-source.

> which we would need to double chek the license and
> also I've read in few places that it is quite buggy.

It has a few bugs, yes. (I am on the JSF JCP Expert Group, so I know
it's bugs pretty well :) It is also very JSP-oriented, even though
theoretically it can be used without JSP, and even comes with an example
using XML.

> Any thoughts? Thx :-)

We have a module clnt-jsf that has the *core* JSF implementation (but it
needs jsf-api.jar to work, as that defines the actual javax packages).
This module is then *extended* by clnt-jsf-cocoon and clnt-jsf-struts,
which provide the actual concrete connector to those two UI frameworks
to use JSF. The Cocoon one is pretty close to usable, the Struts one is
further behind, mostly due to a lack of the code for the tag library.
Not being much of a JSP person, I've not had the itch to write the tags
:-)

At the same time, if MyFaces can be used in isolation from JSP (which I
think they were working on), then I'm all for not re-inventing any
wheels! 

Mike

> 
> --- Michael Nash wrote:
> 
> > Carlos:
> > 
> > I'll get the latest one in there & synchronized -
> > indeed, when we
> > started our JSF impl, it was not possible to
> > redistribute the JSF jar,
> > so we left it out intentionally.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 22:48, Carlos Cardenas wrote:
> > > Oops,
> > > 
> > > jsf-api.jar from 1.1mr1 breaks the code in
> > clnt-jsf
> > > and clnt-jsf-cocoon.
> > > 
> > > Just FYI ;-)
> > > 
> > > thx
> > > 
> > > --- Carlos Cardenas
> > 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I noticed that in CVS HEAD the clnt-jsf is
> > missing
> > > > the
> > > > jsf-api.jar
> > > > 
> > > > I checked the licensing from SUN and it seems to
> > me
> > > > that at least the 1.1mr1 release of the JSF-RI
> > > > allows
> > > > redistribution of the jsf-api.jar, Am I
> > correct?
> > > > 
> > > > If so, could one of the commiters add it to the
> > > > 
> > > > CVSROOT/clnt-jsf/lib directory
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks :-)
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