Re: Will "Performance" (and stability) sometime appear in NetBeans roadmap?

Do note, I am and never have been an Oracle nor Sun employee. Apache, like
most OSS, is a meritocracy, so if you do, you have more say. Less do and
more say equals less. The NB project has been this way for a long time too.
I have contributed to various areas over the years.

The contributor agreements are easy formalities which protect the code and
those who use it and contribute to it, and many who help out often would
not were there no legal protections, and that is just smart for someone
building software in our world of idiocy, software patents, law suits, and
those eager to award with no understanding of the topics at hand.

I agree pieces related to performance need to be looked at, and am planning
to make a push on some of that stuff after Apache as I am hoping for a
faster release cycle, and more of a flowing release process about like
Google Chrome, to get better return on my personal invested time, so we
will see, but I too use many Gradle projects daily without a lot of issue,
but am using a Mac.

If you know specific things that could be fixed as you have suggested, a
good approach would be to create wiki page and outline them, and there
reference Jira issues. Myself and others can then help you with that as a
project, and we can recruit others as well.It would help you and others.
That will certainly make it a priority. This was going to be one of my
first steps, but if you can help get that going, then great, and will help
a lot.

Maybe using this as a template:

http://wiki.netbeans.org/MakeGroovyInNetBeansGreatAgain

Wade

On Dec 11, 2016 5:09 PM, "NukemBy" <[email protected]> wrote:

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> geertjan wrote:
> > Motivations re NetBeans at Apache are clearly described:
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal
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> > Gj
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> I've already seen this link - motivation there is very generic. Frankly
> speaking I'm not enough familiar about how ASF works and specifically have
> no idea who is funding and managing projects there.
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> The link says (slighly re-worded for brevity) - "... individual
> contributors from other organizations, as well as self-employed individual
> contributors ...  are expected to contribute to NetBeans" ...
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> Probably I'm too pessimistic, but why will they do this? NetBeans is
> rather complex and just to start doing something minor, but correctly
> implemented, it will take weeks/months from rather highly skilled
> developers to get acquainted with the code. Such people typically work for
> money, unless they just love NetBeans very much :) - therefore I'm somewhat
> pessimistic regarding huge inflow of fresh blood ...
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> Another thing - how is it different from current process? Anyway to
> contribute to "something under ASF" you need to become a contributor there
> -> this means contributor license agreement and other 'complication' staff
> - i see no much difference from contributing to open source Oracle
> software. Situation may get significantly different if just hosted on
> github under something like MIT license - that way anyone having github
> account can fork project, do some enhancements and send merge-request back
> to owner, with minimal paper work and much more efficiency thus decreasing
> entry effort. As far as i know this way does not work in ASF (as well as in
> Oracle).
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