Re: suggesting more accessibility improvements for Netbeans

Emilian Bold <[email protected]> Mon, 3 Apr 2017 21:38:37 +0300
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Hello,

Andreas Stefik has been working on the Quorum language (
https://www.quorumlanguage.com ) which is has a big focus on accessibility.
Their IDE, called Sodbeans, is built on top of NetBeans.

I see on their download page ( https://www.quorumlanguage.com/download.html
) that they also have enhances the accessibility of NetBeans:

Self-voicing support: By default, screen readers only partially read
> NetBeans out-of-the-box. Sodbeans' self-voicing support provides an
> alternative method.


This might provide a better overall experience.

Please open issues on Bugzilla ( https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/ ) for
accessibility issues. This might speed things up (and encourage whatever
improvements Sodbeans has to be pushed into NetBeans proper).



--emi

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 5:34 AM, chuck winstead <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello net Beans Development team,
> My name is Chuck, and i am from Owensboro Kentucky. I=E2=80=99ve had an i=
nterest
> for learning how to code for some time.
> I have been looking for an accessible IDE for the Mac, aside from apple=
=E2=80=99s
> Xcode which is generally for apple things.
> I discovered the NetBeans program, and noticed that it can do several
> different types of languages.
> I downloaded it and installed it. To my surprise it was labeled OK with
> accessibility. I could see the buttons clearly, but even though I see the
> buttons clearly with VoiceOver. That doesn=E2=80=99t mean I can use it co=
mpletely.
> I still couldn=E2=80=99t to see my code as I typed.
> i wanted to write to you and request that it have better accessibility
> improvements in future releases.
> i=E2=80=99ve tried Using things like Eclipse, and Leclipse, but I still n=
eed a
> sighted person to get me back in to correct code if there is an error.
> I like what i see so far, and i do hope that accessibility=E2=80=99s impr=
oved in
> the future releases. I am still looking for an accessible IDE, because I
> didn=E2=80=99t do too well in my Computer -Science class. Partially becau=
se I could
> not find an accessible IDE.
> I=E2=80=99ve still been wanting to improve my coding skills.
> Definitely let me know about the accessibility improvements.
> Chuck

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,<br><br>Andreas Stefik has been working on the Quoru=
m language ( <a href=3D"https://www.quorumlanguage.com">https://www.quoruml=
anguage.com</a> ) which is has a big focus on accessibility. Their IDE, cal=
led Sodbeans,=C2=A0is built on top of NetBeans.<br><br>I see on their downl=
oad page ( <a href=3D"https://www.quorumlanguage.com/download.html">https:/=
/www.quorumlanguage.com/download.html</a> ) that they also have enhances th=
e accessibility of NetBeans:<br><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">Self-voicing support: By default, screen readers only partially =
read NetBeans out-of-the-box. Sodbeans&#39; self-voicing support provides a=
n alternative method.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>This might provide a =
better overall experience.</div><div><br></div><div>Please open issues on B=
ugzilla (=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/">https://netbeans.=
org/bugzilla/</a> ) for accessibility issues. This might speed things up (a=
nd encourage whatever improvements Sodbeans has to be pushed into NetBeans =
proper).</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"=
all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div>--emi<br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 5:34 AM, chuck winste=
ad <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">Hello net Beans Development team,<br>
My name is Chuck, and i am from Owensboro Kentucky. I=E2=80=99ve had an int=
erest for learning how to code for some time.<br>
I have been looking for an accessible IDE for the Mac, aside from apple=E2=
=80=99s Xcode which is generally for apple things.<br>
I discovered the NetBeans program, and noticed that it can do several diffe=
rent types of languages.<br>
I downloaded it and installed it. To my surprise it was labeled OK with acc=
essibility. I could see the buttons clearly, but even though I see the butt=
ons clearly with VoiceOver. That doesn=E2=80=99t mean I can use it complete=
ly.<br>
I still couldn=E2=80=99t to see my code as I typed.<br>
i wanted to write to you and request that it have better accessibility impr=
ovements in future releases.<br>
i=E2=80=99ve tried Using things like Eclipse, and Leclipse, but I still nee=
d a sighted person to get me back in to correct code if there is an error.<=
br>
I like what i see so far, and i do hope that accessibility=E2=80=99s improv=
ed in the future releases. I am still looking for an accessible IDE, becaus=
e I didn=E2=80=99t do too well in my Computer -Science class. Partially bec=
ause I could not find an accessible IDE.<br>
I=E2=80=99ve still been wanting to improve my coding skills.<br>
Definitely let me know about the accessibility improvements.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">Chuck</font></span></blockqu=
ote></div><br></div>

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